I, Pencil is a polemic about the importance of innovation and the risks of centralized control.
EVE players find themselves in a very different environment. There is no player driven innovation in Industry. All of the rules are firmly controlled by the game and there is no way to improve on tasks like making Fernite Carbide Armor Plate or new materials to avoid using Morphite. The game is fixed and set by the developers.
The only place for innovation is in the minor areas of supply chain logistics and material acquisition. Even there, innovation is limited. There is no way for players to invent a way to compress gas or moon ore, which would simplify tasks.
The game rewards the most organized and information rich, not the most innovative.
Nobody talking about t2 in here.
Were talking about pirate/faction. Which went from just minerals like it has been for 18 years to minerals, pi, goo reactions, and gas. Pencils I could make last week suddenly require exotic materials you need specific expensive infrastructure to obtain. But its the same pencil.
Nope. It went from minerals to minerals + new items.
That those items needs PI, does not mean you need PI to do faction.
Thatâs the big mistake in your explanations.
Either I get it in those items, which contain pi, or I do the pi. Either way pi is a requirement when it previously wasnât. The hull requires goo reactions, pi, and gas. Thats regardless of who is doing what portion of it. Perhaps you know a way to build items that require pi without the pi? You need pi to do faction builds even if it isnât you thats doing it.
Yeah, it does. Why this? What problem is being addressed? Why does this solve it? Iâve asked these questions before and nobody has an answer other than âher der because ccpâ. The stated goal was to reduce capital proliferation, but this clearly isnât relevant to that in the least. So again I ask the same damn questions. I fully expect the same bullshĂŹt answers.
It would, except that I could never build the t2 pencil by myself. I could do a lot of it, but buying just the stuff I couldnât do ran the cost beyond market value for the hulls. In this case I could crank these pencils out all day. Now I canât do it at all, and I didnt do anything to cause that.
I do have empathy for your position, yet also feel these changes, to make production more multi-layerd and require more inputs, is over all a good thing for the Eve economy.
Other than the whole list of bullet points CCP put at the top of the dev blog you mean?
If you arenât going to engage in basic reading I really donât know what to say about your argument.
Which can be done. You are not required to engage in PI. You can buy it on the market.
There is no PI item in the requirement of the BP. Just because you make the recursive requirement, does not talk about the actual requirement.
Your affirmation, that you need for that BP, is just plainly wrong.
And also, even if it was, would not consider it a problem. Itâs a problem for you, because you feel entitled to produce it in autarky. But your ego problems are just⌠well, yours. Deal with it.
That is true. You arenât required to do it, but it is required. Someone has to do it.
I read it all, multiple times looking for a reason. It isnât there. Nowhere did they state the problem with faction ships, or why this fixes it. Just that it is, followed by some meaningless talk about adding complexity to capital building. Why didnât the original developers build it this way? Why hasnât it been changed over the last nearly two decades? Is it just arbitrary?? Because thats the impression I get. I dont see any history of people bitching about the faction ship building process.
Iâve already covered that you, in fact, can not buy them on the market at this time. Further if itâs anything like t2 you will lose money building these ships just buying the non mineral mats.
âWhy donât you build the stuff thats not listed in the market?â
Because I donât have moons and a refinery to react the shĂŹt in. Thats a big portion of why they arenât listed in the first place.
I want all of us to have the same ability that weâve always had. That argument flatly does not apply here.
If this is true then the people selling at those prices are losing money selling T2 ships instead of the parts. So Shrug
Then read it again, there are lots of reasons they have made this change. All listed right there. You might not think this is the best answer to those reasons but CCP have provided plenty of reasons.
Yeah, good for them.
In the mean time sensible people will consider opportunity cost and market price of intermediate products with regards to profits.
This is for the better according to many peoples opinion.
Then you canât read, or are wilfully ignorant. Iâm leaning towards wilful ignorance at this point.