A significant update to Industry

So when do we move to the next phase, and end the scarcity phase?

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People are voting. With their feet. Bye bye players, bye bye money for CCP.

‘…enjoy the industry patch 2 now!!!’ [Facepalm]

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June MER is out and we’re more than 2 months into the change, so how has things settled?

Looks like the hassle of production is driving the produced level to historic lows. CCP ditched quite a bit of sands in the box and replaced them with $1/4k Packs each time they hammer the game with their updates, and intermittent packs that contains finished products (ammos). Are we ready for ships, modules with CC yet?

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Let it happen. People have been saying this game is dying for years, and if they do that it really will be.

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last ninjas right this is what they are doing , scaricty = buy more plex

Ya I was right 3 months ago and I am also right now, Hell even CCP agree’s with me, lost your ship? why not buy some plex and fight back harder. I rest my case

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March 26th - June 24th and counting. Still in slow mode. This thread hasn’t been drawing 15m interval posts for a long ass time. Go ahead and press that button, it’s way past time.

Want to increase indy activity? Introduce new things to build

Want to decrease indy activity? Make it harder to build something players have been building for years

Pretty sure only the first one helps increase consumption to assist scarcity and stockpile depletion.

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Not entirely true. For indy activity to increase there needs to be a reason and a way to do it, that doesn’t require turning your time in Eve into a second but unpaid job.
Introducing new things to build without balance only aids those who already have the isk/assets. CCP wants to get some of the excess isk out of the game which is a good strategy, as long as Eve can survive the 5 or 6 years that may take to happen.
CCP has again gone fullthrottle with changes aimed at improving the game, without first looking at the long term repercussions of those changes.

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We’re digressing from indy changes a bit, but to address you ISK point, I don’t share your opinion there. I think the better way to deplete ISK would be the WoW model where they regularly introduce new mounts/gear that you can only buy with gold, keeps their economy nicely balanced for a 17 year old game. When was the last time CCP had a range of shiny skins you could only buy with ISK?

Imagine a really nice titan/super/fax/rorq skin series with 10b+ costs attached, I’d personally buy them and so would many others.

New players don’t care about titan/super skins, doesn’t impact them 1 jot, and its draining ISK from the people it most needs to be drained from, bitter vets like me!

All scarcity and indy changes has done so far is made me even more space rich as I sit on my assets riding out the storm (literally no chance I’m selling up, the game is about holding right now). Only people getting ■■■■■■ by indy/scarcity is the little guy who genuinely think CCP are sticking it to the vets, whilst they pay more for less and get poorer.

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Skins, really? Ok lets say CCP could come up with a skin that I liked enough to buy for 10bil isk. I have 4 titans, so that’s 40bil yeah?
Minus 40bil for, what would need to be some truely special skins, I still have over 1.5 trillion isk, what else you got?

I have 15 accounts but due to changes made by CCP I only plex 2 now as I don’t need the rest.
I’m no longer “invested” in Eve due to changes made by CCP, so how do they get me to spend up and get invested in the game again.
My isk will show up in the MER till the servers go down for the last time, or until CCP comes up with a way to get me interested in more than logging in to see what’s what.

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You can spend it in the hyperbet casino for a chance to make several times of that amount… ccp is always willing to double your ISK you know :wink:

Don’t say anything… just do it. You know you want to :smirk:

You can blame thank me later. :smiling_imp:

Never. Just my luck I’d win and end up with more isk - and still have nothing to spend it on :joy: :rofl: :joy:

Super Titans, obviously.
T1 Titans lasted almost a decade before becomming “common”

Instead of adding a higher mountain to climb CCP cut the path to the old one off.

To make “loss more meaningful”
You guys ever play sea of thieves? Most you’re ever going to lose is one or two hours worth of mission loot that can only be exchanged for cosmetic stuff.
The salt you can harvest is no less then the angryest of HS miners, freshly ganked by CODE.
Better actually since they have ingame voice chat.

The only meaning gained by adding more grinding is “maybe i should stop wasing my time”

The smart way to make money nowadays is laying claim to as many regions as possible and renting out to bot farms.

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To anyone reading this thinking of resubbing, please don’t. Genuine positive action may well happen by keeping our accounts unsubbed. Now is the time for us to band together to effect positive change. I feel really positive that our efforts are going to be rewarded… Do not falter!!

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Please behave the way I want you to
that’s all

@CCP_Rattati
You remember what happened to falcon? I hope you do.

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If CCP wanted to stick it to the vets, they would have very sensibly required existing ships to be retrofitted with the new components within a couple months of the patch, or be unable to undock. It would fit with the lore, it wouldn’t grandfather in everyone’s massive stockpile of ships from before the patch went live, and it might be enough to shift the balance in the Delve war.

Yeah, it would have been a pain in the ass for my four T2 ships, but it would be a much bigger one for the Panda alliance.

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So you want to screw over every older player, no matter if their in an alliance or not?

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Yeah… Thats even more terrible than what they did. So it could still be worse.