That would be a Hoot! And kill botting? That’s why it will never happen…
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You dare to say its time to join industry?
“The path for aspiring builders in New Eden will be clearer than ever” - Yes, based on the xls, its a very clear message: DONT TRY IT!
You introduce +37 blueprints, and all faction / BS / capital sized ships will require MUCH more extra items! Lots of reaction and extra T4 planetary!
And on top of all this s_it , To invent BPOs ppl will need tons of LVL5 science skills, which is not needed right nor for anything!
So basicly: you must learn 10+ million skill points, and start to use MUCH more construction methods than before. And you think its a good idea?
STOP TELLING LIES!
This update will force ppl back to under BS… because production method will be so complex the prices will go up. Where the hell its healthy to the game, can you name it please?
I would force all ccp developers to start a new character and if you cant build ur very own 1st BS in 1 month after this patch hits live, you are fired… GL!
(I understand you want to get more R4 and R8 used up, if you implement them into BS and capital thats fine, under BS maybe 1 or 2 items, not 3-5 , you can make these to consume a bit more ammount, dont need to make it too complex. I see you realy hate capitals, you guys should visit a therapyst. Anyway, remove the lvl5 insane skill req! Thats unfair!)
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Maybe training Intel Tool will take six months, be too expensive, and cause the sun to explode. If that’s the case I will be there to take pictures of the sun… In six months.
Maybe it will come at the same time as Counter Intel Tool which costs 100isk and trains to V in eight minutes.
Maybe CCP Dopamine will suddenly appear as I wake up and deliver me breakfast in bed while wearing a toga and fanning me with ostrich feathers.
I provided a method of controlling cloaked camping and this doesn’t look like it, but who knows…
Maybe Intel Tool does nothing but spew cans into space and cause people to decloak.
I gotta stop thinking about this.
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Kneejerking aside, I think this is a great update.
The more different types of materials that are needed for the construction of ships, the more demand there is for those different types of materials. This means there are more opportunities for players - especially newer players - to contribute and make ISK by harvesting resources and doing PI and such.
Making HiSec moongoo more valuable is a step in the right direction. HiSec moon mining was a significant conflict driver (read: content creator) in HiSec space. When moon mining was nerfed, the content dried up immediately. So I like that.
Having construction require more inputs (from sources that require slots) is also a step in the right direction. It diversifies the market and creates more opportunities and niches. For “whales” this might hurt because they will either not be able to do everything themselves or will have to train more Omega accounts. But with redistribution that may not solve the issue; players will have to rely on sourcing from disparate regions.
+1 from me.
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They will.
Seriously.
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Thats what you meant right?
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CCP could not balance the game properly when the industry was much less complicated than they are going to make it now. You might want to bet on something else or at least not hold your breath because you are going to suffocate.
I am really intrigued to learn how CCP will want to pull that off and not screw it up completely after so many screw ups in the past and now that they make the system rely on so many more pieces. They could not handle much fewer pieces, hence I am not filled with any drop of confidence that they will make this work properly. Indicative of that is that they are not fixing data sites and are giving wormhole space even more income despite it being the least risky place to farm the income (followed by Abyss, of course) (and slightly unrelated but still relevant as showcase for their lack of competence that they still have not fixed their new news site.)
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Why not?
Seriously.
You’re thinking of tiers from a balance perspective (like Tier 1 and Tier 2 battlecruisers). This is tiers from a production persective.
As usual, translating from ccpian to human:
- industry is fracked.
- Even more barriers, because we love barriers, and we love them because you hate them.
- We can’t even present it this time so you figure out old vs new in that barely readable sheet.
- We wanted to make R4 moons next in importance to R64 and we can’t explain why, but here you go.
- We don’t want you to fly fancy battleships again. Ever.
- We’re doing this instead of any meaningful change because we don’t want you back.
- You aren’t getting mining back either. Screw you.
So far my new year prophecy is 100% on point.
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Nah, the intel thing isn’t in yet, so they haven’t already done anything.
Once again, it appears that CCP is only interested in making changes that benefit big alliance blocs and could not care less about small groups and unaligned players. Any nerf to cloaks will only benefit the groups that are bot ratting and mining.
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“Normalize the value proposition between different activities in EVE”
“Positively impact capital proliferation”
What do these statements mean? Please lay off the buzzwords lol. Does this mean you want different entry cost barriers for pvp vs exploration frigates, for instance? And does this mean that you want more or less capital proliferation?
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I really hope that this thing won’t be a deployable.
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They want less.
'Cuz in their short sightness they think they wanted more, but null blocks amassed so much of it that the war is a joke about supers now.
Basically they want to make it hard for people dominating the industry to make ships easily. This phrase is 100% correct, no point arguing over it unless you can’t read.
But the side effects of it may or may not be what is expected from the phrase stated in the Dev post. And it’s still totally open to discussion and speculation.
- Will industrial buy from others the parts required or they gonna expand moar?
- Will the small guy be finally introduced into the big scheme?
- Are these changes putting a break into the line production so ships gonna not only cost more 'cuz materials but also 'cuz it’s a pain in the arse to do it? So basically are null blocks suffer from shortage during long campaigns?
Remais to be seem, but feel free to consult your crystal ball anytime or to present a very well detailed plan explaining all the steps.
Edit: We are also accepting fortune tellers and astrologists previsions.
Queue the next round of nerfs.
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Why not?
I can think of reasons why I don’t want it to be, like timers and stupid rules about who can shoot it and when, but I’m curious about why you don’t want it to be.
As a returning player to Eve, who just spent $200+ on injectors for a brand new account simply to be a self sufficient Capital ship builder this has me livid.
I’m now going to have my ability to do what i payed for taken away from me and walled off behind 6 skills that i’ll need level 5 to continue doing. 6 level 5 skills!!! Of which i have none trained because Science is for research.
If you want to add new modules with new resources that are more powerful great, but this is ■■■■■■■■.
I expect my current capabilities to be continued, that means matching my prerequisites or you can expect a charge back from me thanks.
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Sounds like you made a mistake by trying to pay to win. Fortunately, now that you’ve established that you’re willing to pay to win, you can just give CCP even more money for injectors and inject the new skills you need.
you can expect a charge back from me thanks.
FYI: doing that would be criminal fraud. The chargeback will be reversed once CCP disputes it and you may get into serious legal trouble and/or lose your credit card over it.
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