A bit of feedback - As a player looking in at the fantastic new changes to industry you are reporting. I checked your introduction page and I am no more enlightened about features and benefits than before I read your hype article. Asking me to download and xls, although highly ironic for CCP and EVE, will not lead to higher conversions.
Next time consider running your announcement through a marketing expert, or , at the very least, communicate something about your article other than what YOU think about stuff.
Donât you worry. CCP is fixing it again by introducing new dread module that will allow, in a short order, to block all JF traffic. You bitched and CCP listened! Soon you will not have to worry about industry any more!
There is currently no reason to undock with the idea of hunting those BPC. The Mordu for example. Why would you go in low-sec risking your ship going from belt to belt if at the end the BPC youâll get is basically worth negative ISK because to build the ship it will cost you more than buying it fully built in Jita.
Why would you undock and travel to Guristas space null to do their Epic Arc if the reward for it is a gila BPC that is worth negative ISK ?
The worst is pirate frigates. In one of the patch where CCP silently admit that they screw up and decided to half the number of Trigger Neurolink Conduit in pirate Cruiser and up, and removed the same stupid component from navy ships for the exact reason that buying their navy blueprint was only done buy people who donât know math, because the stupid Trigger Neurolink Conduit is just the worst thing to build. Hell, the Pirate frigate only had one of these stupid component so they could not halve the number required to build the frigates. The solution was the remove them from the BPC (or make the stupid component less complicated to build, like they did for auto-integrity and life support)
But since they didnât do anything, the price of pirate frigate is just nonsensical in comparison to any other ship in the game : 4-5 time (300-400%) the price of tech 2 frigates, where cruiser pirate are roughly 50% over tech 2 cruisers, and pirate battleship pretty much at par with tech 2 BS.
Again, they released a patch to undo some of the mess they made, so no, it was not a good job. Rather poorly thought, still to this day.
You mean like Pokemon Home that wants you to pay $20 a year to store all your Pokemon and if you stop paying theyâll delete them all? Oh my poor Chikoritaâs⌠Iâll never give Pokemon another penny!!! Those bastards!!!
Iâm good at murder. Thatâs what I do in this game, and that skill set has not changed. I also built these ships whenever I picked up a bpc. Mainly because I enjoy using them to murder moreso than other available hulls. Except for the Hecate. That thing is perfect, aside from not having a serpentis version. Since this change I, along with everyone else that doesnât own moons and null/low refineries, are straight up unable to build these hulls. It removed the ability. For most pirate sub cap hulls it is vastly cheaper to buy the built hills in a hub than to haul in just the non mineral components required to build from bpc.
Further⌠We told them exactly what would happen, were proven correct, CCP walked back the component load required for navy ships but not pirate thus confirming they realize it was bad yet they left the mistake in place for pirate hulls. Leading to 110m+ pirate frigates instead of 20-30m, even when people are buying them straight for lp bypassing this ridiculous build process. Itâs been bad since it was conceptualized, it wasnât refined before being implemented, and theyâve doubled down on the stupid since.
UntilâŚ
The pirate fw update is the first good thing theyâve done since @CCP_Rattati got the reigns. It lets me buy more fully built pirate hulls closer to where Iâd like to use them for a resource that I can farm on my own and have no other need for. Not that Iâm giving him too much credit for itâŚ
There are ass loads of people way better at this game than me for sure. I doubt theyâre living in high sec, but thatâs not important. What they 100% certainly arenât doing is building pirate hulls from bpc for profit in high sec. The components come from everywhere and half of them have to be hauled into low/null to be refined and reacted then hauled back?? No way theyâre hauling the â â â â out and back into hs. If theyâre just buying the components theyâre selling their hulls at a loss, bc lp farmers are selling them for less than build cost.
I live in high sec and build pirate hulls with a small group of friends.
The process is indeed laborious, but it is also quite profitable.
Please eve mail me in game if you have any questions as to â100 % certainly not building pirate shipsâ.
And before anyone jumps in, yes the profit is not crazy good, but weâre having a good time and teaching new players the ropes of DED running and gas harvesting and low sec, so thereâs that.
Is it really the manufacturing that is profitable, or is it the WH gas mining that is done to get to the components?
Because it really sounds like you are saying âitâs free because I mined it myself, therefore itâs profit.â when the gas materials could have been refined into capitol parts with a much higher profit margin.
