About That “Will You Get A Titan?” Crimson Harvest Ad…

So CCP’s Crimson Harvest banner boldly asks “WILL YOU GET A TITAN?” and naturally, half of New Eden perked up, thinking there’s an actual Titan giveaway.

Let’s clear the warp bubbles and look at the fine print:

The October 6 news post said the final reward crate would “include a Blood Raider ship blueprint.”
The October 28 update added that “the most fortunate capsuleers may land the fabled Dagon or Molok.”
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1oik17j/crimson_harvest_done_bpc/
No drop odds are published.
On Reddit, players are already saying, “Surely the chances for the titan and dread are insanely low,” while crates are trading for around 2 billion ISK.

Translation: you’re not being given a Titan. You’re being given a chance at a chance. It’s a lottery ticket wrapped in a grind, tucked inside a crate that may or may not contain anything more valuable than a blueprint for a cruiser or frigate.

Yes, technically, the Molok (a Titan-class ship) is in the loot pool. And yes, the ad’s question “Will you get a Titan?” isn’t technically false. But calling it a Titan giveaway is like saying you can win the lottery just because you bought the scratch-off.

It’s brilliant marketing. It got clicks. But it’s not a Titan giveaway.

My estimated odds:
Based on zero confirmed Reddit posts or forum threads of players pulling a Molok BPC from the crate so far, active threads saying “the odds are insanely low,” and crates still trading at roughly 2 billion ISK, and the price of existing Molok BPCs being in the hundreds of billions of ISK when they surface, which implies extreme rarity.

I’d estimate less than 0.01% per crate for the Titan class drop, and quite possibly far lower (one in 100,000 or worse). If even 1 in 1,000 crates produced a Molok, we’d likely have multiple confirmations by now. We don’t. So a safe bet is well under 0.01%.

Expected value sanity check:
Suppose crates are selling or trading for about 2 billion ISK, and the market value of a Molok is hundreds of billions of ISK. In that case, the expected value contributed by the Titan drop is negligible. If the chance were significantly higher, crate prices would be vastly higher than 2 billion. The math backs up what players are saying: the Titan chance is basically a lottery fantasy.

A note to CCP:
If anyone in Reykjavik is reading this, maybe keep the hyperbole docked unless someone actually will get a Titan. Or at least publish a drop table or the odds. We publish tables for DED loot, so why not this?

Until then, I’ll be over here running sites and pretending my blueprint crate contains dreams instead of another Cruor.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if someone pulls a titan blueprint out of that RNG box.

This makes it as much a Titan BPC giveaway as any free random Titan BPC giveaway.

What was the reason for this thread? To complain that not everyone is getting a Titan or that RNG is RNG?

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Leave it to Eve players to cry over free stuff.

:roll_eyes:

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CCP enjoys reading such threads so to answer your question the reason for this thread, apparently is to make CCP laugh. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Completely unrelated image:

:smirking_face: :psyccp: :wink:

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Unless it comes with the minerals and other parts, as well as a Sotiyo, it’s a relatively worthless piece of paper for 99.999% of players.

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Honestly, I’m surprised CCP isn’t Account Locking these bpcs.

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This ‘worthless piece of paper’ can be sold for many many billions though.

Is it really worthless?

Inb4 it ends up on a lossmail at the Jita 4-4 grid. :thinking:

:face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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On the reward track, what day does the box drop that has a BP in it?
I’m on day 18 out of the 29 at the moment

It’s not on the daily reward track but the ingame reward track for points.

“Will you get a titan?“

No, you will not get a titan.

Next question.

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I have two.

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Can anyone spare 100b for a Molok bpc?

What good are they to you? Not busting your butt here. I can fly multiple cap ships maxed out but why?

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tribute for the queen bee

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giphy

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As long as they dont pull another T20 and give it to a null bro Id be happy.

The reality is it is a lottery and theyll probably give away 1 of them as a grand prize.

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Let’s be honest here. If 90% of you received a Titan from this event, you’d lose it inside of 5 minutes….

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I think most of those boxes from the Agency event points will drop a Frigate or Cruiser BPC… A few lucky players will get a Battleship or Dreadnought BPC and a couple players will get a Force Auxiliary BPC…

The boxes will probably include a few other items as well, hopefully something new… More than likely it’ll be a random selection of previously implemented items like apparel, fireworks, modules and or an implant…

That’s pretty much it…

As for a Titan BPC, yeah… A couple days after the event CCP will somehow be informed and post a Dev Blog claiming that one miraculously dropped for a Null Sec Alliance member…

Personally I’d like to get a Battleship BPC but I’m actually expecting to get a Frigate BPC…

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Lets relay on science…

Let’s assume there are around 50,000 active accounts on a daily basis during this event. If the developers decided to include only 10 Molok BPCs in the lottery, then the drop chance per account would be under 0.02%.

Now, considering that each account has 3 alts (so, 3 attempts), the total number of attempts would roughly scale up to 150,000.
In that case, the drop chance for a Molok BPC would be below 0.0067%. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

If there are fewer reserved BPCs (say 3 or even just 1) and more active accounts, the drop chance would be even lower.

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