I’d vote for Tier 3-5 to only be allowed in low/null, and tier 1-2 being the only one’s runable in high-sec. Or maybe Tier 3 being available to high sec with a suspect timer.
1+2 is plenty for people to get their feet wet for 0 risk :].
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What is a must IMO to prevent a desaster on release:
- Tier 1-3 in highsec, rest only in lower sec, (highest tier preferred in lowsec)
- All tiers 100% winnable with the right strategy and fit for the weather or an option to chose an exit based on an informed decision
- material loot in 1-3, frig sized stuff, ammo BPCs, only low level or no mutaplasmids
- all the rest of loot only in 4,5
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Wouldn’t mind if frig only muta’s droped in 1 and 2 as well that would balance it a lot better, nice idea. Then we would have to work hard for the cruiser, bc and bs stuff.
Although if the muta drop rate is low for 1-2 + frig only and no frig muta’s in 3,4,5 we might end up with the situation where frig muta’s might be the rarest lol.
But you CAN interact with them while they are missioning, the same is not true of t1-3 abyssal deadspace.
Why can you interact with someone doing a lvl 1 mission yet you cannot do the same with someone doing a t1 abyssal deadspace?
I am not asking for consequence free what I am asking for is being given the chance to have the consequence in the first place.
There is a consequence, once they leave the portal, nothing stopping people from sitting there and suicide ganking the target when they come out in their bling fit for t1-2.
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How are you going to suicide gank an adu fitted ishtar in 1.0 space?
ADU only double’s ehp, it’s still plenty gankable. I guess it depends how bling it is thou if its even worth ganking, will have to run the number’s.
funniest thing is my ishtar requires a plate for sites nowdays too so gank a plated adcu ishtar;)
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That’s not true, they are stopped by their IQ.
I am only hoping that people can find themselves in the same abyssal deadspace as others.
Abyssal deadspace shouldn’t equal abyssal safespace.
Instances in eve are not welcome.
Don’t worry I foresee some pvp + group content on it’s way we are the lab rat’s in the testing phase 
Imagine one of the random spawn’s isn’t rat’s but another player and only 1 can leave alive hahaha, people would complain thou unless they knew what they where getting themselves into.
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Hope so, don’t want eve turning into wow or abyssal deadspace being the eve equivalent of NGE.
https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/star-wars-galaxies-and-the-disastrous-nge-update-w484403
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Wow that was an incredible read, who would have thought player’s would love mystery and progress so much 
just to have it all given for free a few year’s later (Make’s me think the concept of pvp balance is a bit overrated, maybe striving to be op is what makes people really excited.)
I remember this game called skyforge where player’s where all on completely different level’s you’d have a bunch of guy’s that where decen’t a few new guys and maybe 1 or 2 op guys that you alway’s asked to come join you on the bos fight’s 
it was fantastic, until they made it p2w lol, but love the idea of a few legend’s among the rest of us :].
I have no idea what to do with all these bad rolled muta’s feel like a waste to trash or reprocess them :/.
Its only singularity, reprocess them maybe?
Another thing is why jumping into abyssal deadspace is allowed in high-sec to begin with. The lore is that CONCORD and the empires don’t want capsuleers getting involved messing around with the Triglavians.
Maybe a sec status hit for lighting one in high-sec should be a consequence?
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There are many many ways CCP could fix the issue of risk free loot. One could do as you suggested, one could disallow entering tier 3 - 5 from Highsec in the first place, one could remove the suspect exception for tier 1 - 3 or deflate the loot value of these tiers. CCP realised that the HS mechanics and Abyssal mechanics caused this problem and decided to adapt Highsec to make it like Lowsec in that regard with suspect timers. Yet the lack of strictness causes the proglem with hunters wasting their time on non-suspect runners, negating the desired effect.
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Ran a Tier 5Gamma in a vagabond:
1st wave: first wave was fine was a swarm just kited them at 20km’s with fusion ammo and passed by a tracking pilon to kill them.
2nd wave: 6 tri frig’s with scram, was no problem becuase I was afterburner fit kited away instantly to get distance between the cruiser’s and the frig’s, all frig’s died then it was the 4 cruisers left… WOW they alphed all my shield’s then put me into hull then dead in a few second’s they moved 2k/s so no way to kite them with my afterburner lol maybe its mwd time?
But they orbit at 22km’s which means I can’t kite with auto’s I need to use arty but I cant use arty vs frig’s with scram expecially 6 of them, not sure how to finish this one.
My fit I was using: (no implant’s not like they would have help’ed they where doing about 4x more damage than I could rep.)
Forgot to use ADC but I doubt it would have kept me alive much longer that dps was insane. Guess I could try buffer fit, but waiting for it to regen during wave’s is asking to run out of time.
I saw “Mutaplasmid Residue” thing on sisi.
Description says “This is a dormant mutaplasmid residue extracted by reprocessing a piece of equipment adapted with a specialized mutaplasmid colony. While this substance is not immediately capable of technology adaptation, it should provide useful starter material for the development of an active mutaplasmid.”
So I guess we’ll have some materials from reprocess of abyssal modules, but it’s just a thought
Don’t forget that If they shoot u for a long time - they gain twice more dps 
U should have kill vedmaks first
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I was out of range of the cruiser’s the entire time i was killing the frig’s so that alpha they did was before they built up any damage I would hate to know what their full dps is like.
Not fast enough to break their build up as well so I kinda feel these site’s where ment for MWD + missiles or somethink that has good tracking over decent range like Rapid light’s or drone’s I fear gun ship’s are not good enough for 5’s.
If someone is crazy enough to fit long range gun’s then those frig swarm waves would be a nightmare.
O hell I’m crazy let me try.
But how can u stay out of their range if your speed is like 1k+ and theirs 2k?
Also dmg they do on your screenshot not that big But vaga has poor buffer indeed :\