What you mean to say is that these things are currently difficult to achieve. Just like manned flight, space flight, and splitting the atom, we will get there in due time.
Less than 200 years ago we were still riding around on horseback. Now we are flying remote drones on Mars and sending probes beyond our solar system into the galactic void. Just think of what we will be capable of in another 200 years…
We have advanced more in the past 100 years than all other periods in human history combined. And that rate of advancement is accelerating every year. We went from the invention of the light bulb to supercomputers with billions of transistors so small that they are starting to interact at the sub-atomic level in less than 200 years. We are reaching the peak of what is achievable with transistors, which will necessitate a technological leap into optical CPUs and memory, which we will achieve in time as well.
To be fair the datacentre power requirements wouldn’t be an issue if western governments had just invested in nuclear power decades ago, rather than doubling down on windmills and solar panels even after they proved utterly unable to cope with the demands of traditional industry, let alone having to also handle the demands of the AI industry.
Datacentres and nuclear power plants actually have fairly similar geographical requirements, so situating them close together would solve many problems. They both want large bodies of water for cooling, and the power infrastructure is obviously much less of an expense if the datacentre is within walking distance of its primary power plant. Just sign laws requiring datacentre projects to also invest in the construction of new nuclear power plants in the same region and you’d see the water requirements solved (the datacentres would have to be built in locations it would be reasonable to place a nuclear plant) and electricity prices in the region would decline (nuclear power is genuinely extremely reliable and cheap, it’s just hampered by environmentalist regulations, which the tech lobby would make quick work of removing), which benefits not just every single homeowner come winter, but the economy in general by cutting down on major operating costs for local industry.
The United States has the largest number of nuclear power plants in the world, which provide 20% of the electricity needs of the country.
Don’t shoot the messenger buddy, like I mentioned earlier, fantasies won’t allow humans to bypass the barriers set by physics. I am simply a spectator who has an small understanding of the physical world we live in.
No, I actually ment to say what I said.
It’s impossible for humans, or mega mega mega mega difficult to survive outside of earth LONG-TERM, we simply need the earth’s gravity to help our muscles otherwise our muscles will degrade and one will perish.
Right, so you think we can just advance forever? If you take a look at Moore’s law for example we are almost at the limit and we simply cannot make components smaller than what they currently are.
If we look at GPU’s in gaming for example, everyone is upset that it is AI generating extra frames to increase the FPS for ultra high resolution. What people might not understand is that we are close to the limit of what we can process with regard to gaming, and the ultra resolution and FPS we are looking for will never run natively on the GPU due to barriers set by nature/physics.
The United States currently has 96 reactors. We would need somewhere around 500 reactors to satisfy our current power needs, which are only increasing.
It’s called exercise, slick. Astronauts have been doing it for decades. There are astronauts who have stayed in space for over a year straight in zero gravity. Mars gravity is 38% that of Earth’s. Yes, you would incur some bone density loss over time, but you’re not going to die. If you were to stay on Mars for decades, however, the possibility of you being able to return and withstand the Earth’s gravity is slim, but you could live there indefinitely if you had enough oxygen, food, and water. It’s already been done…
No, I dont think you understand me, one sec buddy.;
Have a look at this info, these are barriers presented by nature, no amount of exercise will ever solve this.
Human bodies are biologically engineered to resist Earth’s specific gravitational pull. Extended time in low gravity causes severe physical deterioration:
And this is a big part of the issue, some of us might not understand that it is literally impossible or ultra ultra ultra economy ruining difficult for a human to exist outside of earth long-term. If someone tells me people will be living on mars in 5 or 10 years I know it’s just not possible and i would never knowingly invest money in this.
You’ve made some great points and astronaugts do spend long periods of time in space but there is a physical limit to how long they can spend out there and they will 100% be deleted from earth’s server if they spend too long.
So, you’re one of those who think we are stuck on this rock for eternity, eh?
I think that the human body is not indestructale and that living in a weightless vacuum long-term will have a seriously bad effect on health. If you look carefully at what has been promised (5 to 10 years we will be living on mars) you will see that it is impossible.
Feel free to point out how exactly we will reproduce outside of the earth’s gravity, to me it looks impossible, unless there is a sort of vehicle or body which generates the exact same conditions on earth then yes we are here for eternity.
Advancements are currently being made in quantum and optical processing. It’s only a matter of time…
Expending too much energy to view the quantum fabric of a single point anywhere in the universe causes that point to collapse like a black hole, so light will never reach the viewers eye or it will take millions of years to reach the viewers eye.
At some point you may need to accept that just like a computer system, the reality we live in has rules and boundaries. Sure, go ahead and use all the energy in the world to try to break these barriers but it just won’t work.
I don’t know any way to explain it to you more simply. Take anyone from the 1800’s, transplant them in 2026, and we would be gods to them. They couldn’t comprehend the technology that we have now. And in 200 years, we will be that much more advanced than we are now…
I’m not saying technological advancement is impossible, I am saying that there are barriers to the reality we live in.
Blasphemy!
This is part of the problem, some of us think we are gods and can defy the barriers set by nature.
And then some of us believe these people and invest all our money in them.
Don’t tell me all that back and forth we just had was about “evil” billionaires, or I’m gonna be really disappointed…
Have a look at the title of the thread.
Someone is factually talking about putting a data center in space.
We are discussing such matters here and a few other subjects that relate to it.
We should break through those boundaries and hack the computers running our reality, then we could run our AI datacentres in virtual machines on the reality simulator cluster and not have to worry about the power demands any more.
Most forget “personal reactors” were a planned feature of home life in the 1950’s. In the nineties, the Japanese even had a company that started making personal reactors to power individual neighborhoods or even individual homes. They were shut out by the Japanese government because a million personal reactors scared them too much.
While Billy Bob, Muhammad, and their sister-wives probably shouldn’t have access to a nuclear reactor in their backyard, I think every large corporation, not just AI datacenters, should have to provide its own power, at it’s own cost. No subsidies. I’m tired of paying $200-$300 a month utility bills that 5 years ago were $50-$75 a month.