Alpha Account SP harvesting method, is this possible?

New Citizens Q&A
#1

So… someone in rookie chat today made a claim he harvests arround 10-15 Large Skill Extractors from his army of endless Alpha accounts every month.

I obviously at first thought “that is not possible”. Because Alpha are limited to 5 mil SP and the 1 millin free SP count towards “total skill points” which, at 5 million an Alpha stops training.
And a total of 5.5 mil are needed before you can extract.

However…he then dropped “it does work, dont tell CCP, i just dont redeem my 1 mil buddy invite until i’m at 5 mil”.

damn…damn…damn…

does this really work?

like the guy created 100 alpha accounts via buddy invite, lets them train to 5 mil and only THEN redeems his 1 mil free SP so he then has 6 million total from which he can sell 500k?

If this is really possible than this method i infinitely scalable and basically requires no investment at all (while omega harvesting does require heavy investment).

#2

Extractors cannot yank unallocated SP, only allocated SP, and Alpha-state accounts can only allocate SP to Alpha skills - which cannot be extracted in an Alpha state.

So this sounds like pure BS to me.

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#3

well…then case closed. Sounded to good to be true anyways but i fell for it lol.

#4

Alphas can have up to 20 mil SP, but after the Initial 5.5 sp, injectors are needed to reach the 20 mil. so either way, this just doesn’t seem like a plausible or sensible tactic.

#5

Last time I tried, Buddy Invites only worked with new Omega accounts.

#6

they can be used with alphas… a GM confirmed that with @Archer_en_Tilavine some time ago when they were referencing alphas and biomassing and skirting the negative sec status etc.

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#7

The point was you can buddy invite a new alpha account and get 1million free SP in your redeemable items. Then you do NOT redeem it but leave it there until the alpha reaches 5 million total skillpoints just by waiting…only THEN you redeem the 1 million free SP from your redeemable items tab which only THEN adds up this Alpha account to 6 million total SP (without use of skill injectors or any investment at all).

Thus u had 6 million total SP from which you could extract 500k. The thing which @Mkikaden_Tiragen pointed out is: one can not extract SP from alpha skills. Thus the entire method doesnt work.
This i did not not know when the guy claimed it and thats why i was baffled a bit.

Anyways its still a clever"workarround" to get an alpha to 6 million totally free Skillpoints without the use of injectors or any other investment.

#8

Geo was replying to Pierre’s assertion that the only way to get the bonus SP is to convert to Omega, which was incorrect.

#9

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