Rust is a survival game. It is a lot harsher and overall extremely different than EVE. There are some similarities, but I would not classify them the same. There isn’t really a complex economy with trade, speculation, manipulation and piracy in that game. Things like that made UO and EVE very special and are completely missing from those type of games.
Oh yes, I was a backer of that one. It tries to copy a lot of EVE. Sadly it doesn’t really work in my opinion. It somehow went full power creep with basically the same stuff multiple times in different tiers and you have to endlessly grind for it. There is nothing, really absolutely nothing interesting in this game. It’s just grind from start to end in my opinion.
Yes, EVE is special that way. And it changes a lot how the game is approached. I don’t think suicide ganking would exist the way it does if it wasn’t for multiboxing. Alts completely cancel the effect the security status has. I would not say that it would vanish, but it would go back to fleets of individual players.
It probably takes some time until you are invested enough to go multiple alts. I played for years with just this character before I created a second one and most other players I played with had only one. This isn’t appealing to everyone. It also kinda kills immersion.
But there isn’t really a point in discussing alts and multiboxing further. At this point it has become an integral part of the game for better or worse. It is still possible and viable to play with only one character.
How is “unfair” PvP not real? Since the PvP in EVE only emerges if there is something to gain for one side and usually we shy away from it because of the loss, that reflects so much more a real situation where the fights that take place actually has purpose. The “fair” MOBA type PvP that some here advocate and identify as the only kind of “real” PvP in their mind is some artificially staged meaningless and in the end once again repetitive and boring minigame.
I get why they propose that. Many MMORPS that exist today have PvP basically outsourced to some attacked MOBA minigame mechanic that have absolutely nothing to do with the game itself.
I find the conflicts EVE produces with the unique mechanics it has far far more interesting than such staged “PvP”. Also if someone is more interested in staged PvP there is really so much options to get that elsewhere.
I don’t really understand why people like @Kezrai_Charzai think all games gave to be the same, but I assume it has to do with them not being flexible enough in their minds that EVE can work differently and that they have to learn and approach some things in a different way to be successful.
Also some just have some deep rooted white knight feelings and think it is just “wrong” to have non-consensual PvP at all.