Thats called evelution, you get a problem, create a solution, thats the real world to. I dont see your point
am in a semi big corp, we have had the same bumper for years, its his full time job
they hit none AFK mining fleets to, macs and orcas have no chanse
tell that to a orca in hige sec that have 40 ppl on his ass, he got like 4 min before he can even start to think about warping
For the isk price of the clone soldier tags to recover from the security loss, I can get you rid of any 500mn stabber.
with 40 people, why bother bumping? just take thrashers with t1 guns on them, they’re dirt cheap and solve the problem in a much more satisfying way. It also doesn’t take 4 min, it takes like 25 seconds.
keep another thrasher around to flip the pod that drops in case concord is being nasty by that time, then it’s +2 secs for the pod. unless he wasn’t afk enough to actually warp it away.
Who steals ore? We bump the Whale 1000km off the mining grid and when it’s slowish faction drones lag behind too far for drone reconnect orders, we steal the drones. done that countless times, works like a charm if you have twin 500mn ospreys keeping the whale at 5km/s+ . It can’t align, but even if it would, that would leave the drones behind. Most times, however, they are afk anyways and after you steal their drones, they remain sieged some thousand km off the grid.
So game exploiting. Got it. I know it’s legal exploiting, but it’s still exploiting.
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botting on the other hand is non-legal exploiting, and those afk miners that you can watch afk siege 1000km off their ice belt for some reason don’t sit afk on the ice belt when their rock depletes, or you deplete it for them, because during on-grid “afk” they manage to reassign their drone to the next rock whenever it depleted… hmmm…
you keep using that word, but you’re using it wrong.. If it was an exploit, and did damage to the game, or gave a huge advantage to a certain class, CCP would deem it an exploit and make it unavailable.. but seeing as CCP loves bumping, but even gave bumping a nerf in a sense.. its not going to be deemed a bad exploit and removed.
Hmm.. you didnt read the whole post.
i did… if bumping was a much larger issue, CCP would deal with it… its not EXPLOITING..
they’ve nerfed it before, but its still not an exploit.
An exploit is the unintended use or manipulation of game mechanics, systems, or bugs to gain an unfair advantage over other players, alter the intended gameplay experience, or achieve outcomes not originally intended by the developers.
BUMPING IS NOT AN EXPLOIT!!!
Mokos explanation of what they do, is not an exploit either.
No i think you missed a word in that post.
I’ve done that just for sheets and giggles. 
Being active does help them though.
the timer for industrial core has to end before its able to go to warp, and it aint the same ppl getting 40 ppl at care to be bumping and guess not everyone can takle a ship that moves 3000 mph but what the heck, than you have a lot of mercks down in a piglet farm, what can go wrong?
like your view, there is a big diffrence to be able to get rid of a AFK miner and and 2 shoot a orca 150 miles away from the icefield.
Why use the Indu Core in HS if you don’t have enough defense forces around to protect it? Bring 3-4 Basilisk and a Nighthawk for max. Shieldboosts to the Icebelt, Gankers will leave you alone.
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Yeah, anything over 200,000 EHP is usually safe from ganking. And orbiting ice cubes keeps you safe from Stabbers. AFK mining in a Skiff while orbiting is the secret.
no it does not, you have never ice mined and gotten bumbed, orbiting just helps i little. last time i was trying to hide behind the cube from the bumper, he got close, hit the cube and after he got around and hit me away from the cube and next i know am 30 km away from the cube, and why is ppl all about stabbers, they usualy use Machariel*s
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we usualy got +20% x2 shieldboost, and bigger fleets we got armor and hp boosts to from orcas, a hit like that is once a year so we cant bring deffence for fleets like that. we got prolly near 1000 mining fleets yearly.
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Oh I have been bumped. I was referring to this post here:
Where he claims that bumping a moving target is absolutely impossible. I’ve been bumped while moving. I was actively moving to see if it would help and the Stabber simply kept trying until he hit me. Not that it bothered me. He was a friendly enough pilot and we were both having a good time in chat. His first bump sent me from one ice cube to another so I simply turned my lasers back on and taunted him, “Oh my lasers just turned back on! Better come and stop me again!” Yeah, moving doesn’t do anything to stop a determined bumper especially when you taunt him! LOL!
My Skiff (for solo ice farming only) gets about 283,000 EHP with fleet buffs and overheating with its current and final fit. All faction mods. No blues or purples. The powergrid is maxed so I’m really getting all I can out of it!
It is close to impossible to hit a moving Barge/Exhumer with a 500MN Stabber. At least with significant speeds, because you need like 50km acceleration distance to really bump a Barge or Orca a significant distance “out of the belt”. If he occasionally hits you from near distance, it is 100% ineffective to stop you from mining, thats why I said: “He will leave you alone after a few minutes”, because those Bumpers aren’t stupid, they know they are wasting your time if you react properly.
However you twist it, the Scenario “bumping is a problem because miners can’t do anything” simply does not exist.
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