Any theories on why so many people have quit over the last 2 years?

You trying to make this wbout me, when it’s about you, leads nowhere. it’s not “other people” in general, it’s people like you. :slight_smile: everyone knows that, but keep trying. Keep talking. Keep making manchildish posts, believing you have a voice worthy to be heard, whilehiding behind the safety of highsec, behind CONCORD and from the inside of a station.

You’re at the bottom of the foodchain. Keep talking. :slight_smile:

@Rowdy_Ronny

oh, you’re in TEST?! :grin:

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A lot of talk about how people are hiding for someone using an alt…

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i don’t even play anymore, so this hardly counts as alt. i’m busy working, next to other things. you don’t see me behaving like this person, so i hope that you know how to differentiate.

vOv

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Gotta love the irony of Solstice Project’s alt talking about alts and hiding identities… :grinning:

Needs more detail… which I’m sure you’ve given elsewhere… just point me at some of your other posts that give the appropriate detail with links rather than going into a long reply here perhaps.

Just so you know which direction I’m looking at this from (so you can tailor those links appropriately :slight_smile: ) I’ve always taken the view that (given the apparent core sandbox methodology of CPP’s game development concept for EVE) without the farmers there would be an absolute dearth of content or the rest… you’d have a very small population of dedicated PvP’ers spread over a very large area.

And most of them are far too clued in to how the game mechanics work… they’ll just scram if someone who can beat them shows so fights would become practically non-existent.

Which could tend to make the game a boring unending search for a fight you never get?

i don’t think i have a post specifically covering farmers yet. i’m still learning. lowseccers, who’d i call significantly influenced by them, surprised me a bit with their attitude towards them. i’m on mobile and likely won’t get to a keyboard soon*, so there are no big posts from me.

i don’t disagree with the idea that farmers are targets for others, but in masses they destroy games with their demands and ignorance of the jungle. what we have now, thanks to CCP, is a playerbase shifting towards the mentally challenged, who need content fed to them. too many and it’ll end badly, but it seems CCP is trying to shift culture again, towards people who grow up in a society, where miners and others defend themselves, away from just exploiting Whales.

Farmers are fine per se, but there’s a loud chunk of them that no one needs at all.

  • (or EVER, if i don’t stop meeting people every day :roll_eyes:)

So it’s an issue of balance? I can agree with that broadly speaking, beyond broadly speaking it’s a discussion I’m not equipped for, the fine details are far too complex an issue for little old me :wink:

Yes. CCP nerfed the game’s immune system, that helped keeping the cancer in check. now they have to deal with them, and are apparently trying to get rid of the disposable ones. i’ve actually only recently realized that there’s a string of changes apparently leading to a specific cultural goal. one could say that catering to farmers and simple minded folks was a necessary step for raising some cash, and that they know that it’s not sustainable to keep too many of them around.

fascinating. the story “ends” when PvE and PvP are virtually indistiuingishable, with the haters gone and only those left, who accept the game as the jungle that it is.

My brain’s on a go slow today it seems, it only just assimilated this & flagged it for my attention :wink:

How so did lowseccers surprise you, what is their attitude then?

it looks like there are many who accept them as a part of their economy. they differentiate between farming bots and human farmers. i don’t quite get the point, because in the end the outcome is the same: there are people influencing the forever-war, who have zero interest or care in actually participating in it. i believe that that’s bad, because it wipes the last bit of meaning off the plate and frustrates people. the forever-war between the factions is meaningless enough already.

so i’ve made an iC thread about ending the war, and am working out a solution to achieve it. also part of the reason is Diana Kim, who just endlessly goes on and on and on, whereas 90% of what she says (still mad respects for the player behind. Diana Kim is a fictional character) is literally hot air.

are you just baiting me into talking, because you’re bored? :slight_smile:

PS: still on phone. no good quality posts. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Yes & no, yes I am a little bored (currently walking my 1st Min alt through the tutorial so it will stop annoying me with the pings saying “hey you aint done this yet”) but no because I wouldn’t have asked if that comment hadn’t genuinely piqued my interest :slight_smile:

Side note: the forum just popped the “Consider replying to more people” message at me again

“If you’d like to continue your conversation with this particular user at length, send them a personal message.” the link in there just takes me to your profile where I still can’t see an option to do that?

@CCP so how do I do that then?

You don’t. There are no PMs, you’d have to use mails via the eve gate. ignore the message. i believe that it’s insulting to those who have a genuine conversation, and those who just back-and-forth like robots will just ignore it anyway.

damn, need to run again. soooo looking forward to my weekend. tomorrow i’ll help a friend with his work for university, and then i declare a big, fat “suck it, society” and stay in bed until monday morning. :blush:

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Gotta love the irony of Solstice Project’s alt talking about alts and hiding identities

I’m leaning towards thinking we’re potentially dealing with Andy Kaufman (rumored to have faked his death as the ultimate prank).

This creation is almost as brilliant a character as Tony Clifton.

you guys crack me up. :smiley: i have no idea who Tony Clifton or Andy Kaufman are (wasn’t that the sidekick in Conan O’Brian’s late night show), i appreciate being called “brilliant”, even if it was meant sarcastically. It amuses me to see people trying to turn the point of attention towards some person, just to divert attention from the actual topic.

you guys really need to step up your game. :slight_smile:

Andy Kaufman was a comedian who died in 1984. He was on the television show Taxi and played Latka an immigrant from “the old country” (his actual home country was never disclosed). Tony Clifton was another character created by Kaufman an extremely impolite lounge lizard.

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Damn, i never spent much time in front of a TV. :slight_smile:

Given my age, in the early 1980s that is about all we had besides you know…doing nonsense like going outside and playing or doing stuff with friends. :stuck_out_tongue:

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hahaha, the 80s called, they want their real life back! :smiley:

i was a little kid at that time. :slight_smile: you’re goingn towards the 50? :slight_smile: i’m closing in on the 40. :grin:

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That explains everything. You’re just a youngster!

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40?

Damn, that seems such a long time ago.

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