[ARC] Large and Heavily Damaged Drifter Fleet Encountered in Hive Complex

(Trii Seo) #469

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That, if anyone’s wondering, is at that timestamp. 'ello there buddy!

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(Valerie Valate) #470

Spooky. :alien:

Any ideas yet on what those things are ? Or what their agenda is ?

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(Mizhara Del'thul) #471

These little video snippets do demonstrate one thing. Whoever is releasing them is filling them with artificial artifacting and degradation… and poorly at that.

Sounds ridiculous, but it’s almost as if someone’s trying to drip feed something dramatic in order to keep interests and attention at the ready without actually giving anything interesting out.

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(Trii Seo) #472

Yes, I am fairly certain they stuff their ships with artifacted, low-res surveillance footage, set them on fire and send hurtling at a rapid pace through Empire Space.

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(Mizhara Del'thul) #473

That’s just it. It’s demonstrably not low-res. It’s poorly turned low-res and artifacted, which makes the whole thing weird. I know of no process that can degrade footage that way “naturally”.

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(Jandice Ymladris) #474

To give a summary of the communication attempts:

The Isanamo communication attempt:

Capsuleers involved: Jandice Ymladris & Stig Elendil
We used a wide variety of objects in an attempt to get their attention, often jettisoning them in the hopes of a Drifter response. Science teams aboard our ships kept close track of any possible oddity.

The items used were:
Unknown Sequence
Capsuleer corpses
Corrupted Trinary Relics
Ancient Coordinates Database
Neural Network Analyzers
Sleeper Data Libraries
Antitykhera Element
Redoubt Element
Takhmal Relic Holy Statue
Thukker Loot

The items were flown in one by one with no response form the Drifters, not even when we carried capsuleer corpses. Combination of the items did not provoke a response either.
The only thing that occurred was their ever vigilant scanning and even that was not out the ordinary, no special focus or negligence.

The Evuldgenzo attempt

Capsuleers Uhnboy Ghost & Stig Elendil attempted communication once again at this encounter. Uuhnboy Ghost tried to provoke a response by buzzing various Drifter ships, allowing him to inspect them very closely.
Meanwhile, Stig Elendil attempted light-based communications hailing various ships.
Sadly neither got any response from the Drifters.

Considering Drifter activity in the past, ARC proceeded to remove them forcibly from known space.
You can read about the 3 Drifter encounters here:
Multiple Drifter fleets sighted on a single day!
Do note that the first fleet was destroyed by an unrelated capsuleer fleet & no attempts at communication nor research could be done.
The two subsequent sightings saw the communication attempts before the forced removal of the Drifters.

As noted above, salvaging the Drifter wrecks yielded a previous undiscovered artifact, the Corrupted Trinary Vault, containing the mysterious footage linked above.
To this day, we do not know what drives the Drifters to appear in damaged fleets in our space, nor who did this to them. But until we can communicate with the Drifters, we cannot take chances sadly, as they are simply too powerful to let them roam unopposed in such numbers.

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(Mizhara Del'thul) #475

They routinely get blown to bits by a smattering of suicide destroyers. How exactly does this qualify as ‘powerful’? And honestly, I still wonder just who’s caused the most loss of life so far, the suicidal destroyers or the Drifters?

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(Jandice Ymladris) #476

The Drifters obviously.
Over two years ago, when the Drifters attacked without warning, they not only destroyed various SoE installations but also destroyed capital ships & titans form the 4 navies.
The loss of life from our side pales in comparison to that.

You might like taking chances with a force that doesn’t mind blowing up Titans to get to a SoE installation, but I’m not so inclined. The safety of my people is above the safety of these Drifters.
And because invariably proof will be asked:
A wrecked Erebus Titan after the initial Drifter assault on the Big 4 when Alpha clone technology has been revealed
The relevant World News article: Drifter attacks on research facilities across New Eden

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(Mizhara Del'thul) #477

You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t really see much similarity between strikes against military and RnD facilities, and these gate-scanning fleets. Time and time again, it’s demonstrated that they are largely harmless and destroyed by small groups of destroyers thrown at them. Doesn’t exactly seem like they’re very dangerous when that’s the case, does it?

The questions that never seems to get asked or investigated, “What the hell did the Empire and SoE do to piss them off? What did they do to cause this situation?” remains unanswered and without investigation, for some odd reason. It’s almost as if people are trying to purposely distract from that, in favor of unmitigated aggression.

Something was done at those facilities, and by the Empire, that caused these Drifters to perform high power surgical strikes against the facilities and even Jammies herself and since then they’ve pretty much been harmless. Why isn’t figuring that angle out a bit more focused upon? Facilities across the nations, involving the Navies, the SoE, etc etc. There must be paper trails and investigation opportunities for years there.

I mean, it doesn’t provide the shiny spectacle of throwing sacrificial crews at the Drifters who’re being harmless of course, but I wasn’t aware “flashy reporting” was the main objective here.

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(Valerie Valate) #478

Huurrrgghhh I’m a minmatar who assume the capsules media player has all the codecs to 110% accurately play video clips encoded by who knows what equipment, at some unknown time in the past, stored in who knows what medium, from spirits knows where.

Oooh a blur. MUST BE A CONCROD CUNSPYRACEE.

:ok_hand:

So negative you cancel out all the positivity in the universe.

Elders turn up, rescue all the Minmatar from the Empire and put a force wall round the Amarr to prevent them reclaiming anything ever again, and give every Minmatar a never ending drinking horn of orange juice, and you’d whine about how it wasn’t lemon-lime.

:roll_eyes:

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(Jandice Ymladris) #479

I so hate this comm software

Totally harmless, they’re totally not killing people in the graduation systems right now. nope, not at all. Those recently graduated capsuleers? they sure had it coming. their crew too, Yes, totally.

This might be an alien concept to you, but if a nation has attacked in the past & continues to show aggressive behaviour in someone else territorry, you don’t get a free pass when you show up with damaged ships somewhere else.
If you doubt the above statement, visit any of the graduation systems, ask around, or even better, start scanning for wreckage. you could find survivors from Drifter attacks!
This has been going on since that attack on the 4 nations, just not on a large scale, but more harassment & focused on the Sisters, who don’t mind recruiting capsuleers for their task.
Sisters are doing shady things we know. Amarr too. Even the minmatar are involved.
Gallente & Caldari far less, so far nothing between Caldari/Gallente & wormholes has come up. yet the DRifters keep visiting us with their fleets & they keep showing up in systems close to Jita, the economic heart of the capsuleer market.
So don’t be surprised you get shot when you shot at us in the past & never made attempts for amends.

Keep in mind when the attack on the 4 happened, the navies did not know it was focused on the sister isntallations, as the only precedent we had back then was the continued Drifter attack on Amarr. So the crews lost on the destroyed navy ships died defending their nation, not defending the Sister isntallations, as they simply did not know & the Drifters didn’t care to inform them, just blasted these defenders apart for the crime of defending their home.

We don’t know, & we all love to know. We’ve been poking the sisters over & over (most recently several inquiries by various capsuleers were made at the Sister representative regarding the continuous Sister/Drifter clashes in the graduation systems: no response)
In short: we try, but nothing comes forward, Sisters aren’t telling, just warning us ‘drifters are a threat’ and Drifters got a crack team of professional ignorers on their comms, not bothering for a moment to dissuade the notion that they are a threat. they actually enforce it, by striking without warning, destroying entire fleets & withdraw.
No comms, nothing, just silence.
We know sisters are shady. We know Amarr aren’t being honest about their WH research, same for the Minmatar who are also poking deep into Anoikis, just with less exposure then Amarr.
Caldari & gGllente so far haven’t done much that goes beyond what capsuleers do.

It’s the alpha clone technology provided by the Sisters to the empire, the result of research done on Drifter clones that triggered their initial attack. But at the time nobody really knew, till the strike was over and all those poeple died trying to defend their nation, because previously the only other large scale Drifter attack left the military infrastructure & fleets of Amarr in ruin.
Anyone taking chances that they’re not going to attack you after such display of power is playing some very risky games.
The attacks on those Sister facilities by Drifters is still ongoing, just a lower profile because we now know they’re not threatening any of the 4 nations.
And yes, people are looking into it, because there is something off about the cloning tech and it keeps antagonizing the Drifters to this day. It’s just paper trail investigations don’t give the same valiant grandstanding as complaining about attacking innocent Drifters does.

The Drifters are indeed very innocent, only blew up capitals & stuff a few years ago. They only refuse to communicate with us & enjoy farming our dead bodies in space when they can.
They can communicate with us, they simply choose not to. We are listening, we don’t hear anything. We are calling them; we hear nothing.
If you attack someone & say nothing afterwards, why do you expect clemency when you show up again with yet another battleship fleet?
I choose the safety of the people above the safety of the Drifters. Your opinion on this may vary, but that is mine.
The moment the Drifters open communications & transmit something, or research on our side turn up interesting things, I will re-evaluate that stance; until then, they are a hostile nation.
If you choose to state that ‘acting on a possible threat’ is flashy reporting, then I will accept that, because to me, the safety of my people is more important then an alien force appearing that has been proven hostile in the past & has made no attempt to correct this.

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(Woodrow Ormand) #480

Well, I see another opportunity to study them was thrown out the window

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(Avio Yaken) #481

You say this but it appears ARC has discovered more by blasting their wretched vessels out of the skies than just staring at them trying make friends with these mutants.

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(Mizhara Del'thul) #482

How many of these people have been sacrificed in ‘suicide gank’ tactics I wonder?

… are you in all seriousness suggesting that all graduating capsuleers, all of them, are accompanied by destroyed SoE facilities, Navy Fleets assembling, and drifter hives being destroyed by shitfit corvettes?

So you would agree with me that our invasion of w-space and subsequent rampant violent destruction of damn near everything in it would be justification for violent retort then? Well goodie. I mean, of course you don’t. That sort of thing is only a bad thing if it’s us taking the hit. Screw those other guys.

The initial acts of aggression has so far always been from our side and you have some very strange ideas of who the onus of peace falls upon when that has been the case from the start. It’s not their place to make amends. That’s on us, and from what can be inferred, the SoE and the Empire in particular.

You know, the reasoning you use to make this claim and justify the perpetual agenda of extermination… it’s so easily applied pretty much everywhere. I wonder if you’d be quite so quick to come to such a conclusion if someone used that rationale to exterminate the Amarr. They’ve done far more to deserve it, and yet it’d be an atrocious thing indeed to take that stance with them.

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(Woodrow Ormand) #483

Perhaps you are right. Perhaps that is the only way they know to communicate with the monsters who continuously assault them. I state this from their point of view, don’t confuse this with anything else like last time. Or perhaps we could have learned more by leaving them alone.

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(Woodrow Ormand) #484

By attacking them again arc has been proven to be liars. They have said they would try something different this time.

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(Avio Yaken) #485

Consider it speaking their langauge. Hey, you wanted to communicate with them, right? Pick up a Coercer next time ARC steps up to “communicate” with these freaks. No diplomacy like shotgun diplomacy

Damn shame i missed out on this fleet. Woke up and was disappointing to see after action reports going on.

Do you not see this freaky footage they recovered? We just found a piece of the puzzle in their cargo holds. Our picture of what the hell is going on is much more clearer after putting them down.

(Woodrow Ormand) #486

You are correct, but until it’s decoded it’s useless. What if they were trying to decode it? If you wanted maybe they would have lead you back to where it happened? What if you waited and you got a decoded transmission instead of the stream of triangles

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(Aradina Varren) #487

Communication was attempted, again, they didn’t reply, again.

As for it being “useless” until we decode it, you should probably read a thread before you post in it.

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(Woodrow Ormand) #488

I did. There is a ship in an asteroid field. And then there is a message written in triangles. Nobody has been able to decipher it.

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