You’d be hasty too if your entire existence may depend on it
So if the soft underbelly of their civilisation is getting attacked are they going with a 'best defense is a good offense ’ aproach ?cuz that’s sure putting alot on the line if they have no home to return to in the abyss.
You’re assuming that fighting against either us, or the Drifters, is wounding or crippling Triglavian society. We haven’t got any reason to assume that. No, all signs indicate that we’ve hardly scratched the surface of what the Triglavians are capable of, especially the sudden construction of the World Arks. You don’t build massive ships like that if you’re in imminent danger- you do that if the threat is looming in the distance.
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Well let’s see they do call the Drifters an ancient enemy , their ships aren’t exactly free all the materials to build say a leshak take effort and time to gather there is now information that non-capsuleer enemies breached the proving grounds defence area . I don’t know about you but I’d feel threatened.
Actually you do build ark ships if you are going to evacuate
Yeah, like I said, you build Ark ships for a threat that’s looming in the distance, if you need to evacuate in a hurry you just pack your ■■■■ up and you run like hell. As for Triglavian materials, we don’t even know where they get any of their stuff- all we can do is salvage their wrecks. For all we know, their materials are deeply stockpiled or easily produced, and the fact they assembled the colossal World Arks in a matter of weeks seems to evidence that.
Furthermore, we don’t even know for sure that the Sansha have penetrated beyond the Proving Grounds- it’s just a reasonable hypothesis based on some footage we’ve seen that looks different from the rest of Abyss space, if I recall. Uriel might have to clarify that one. The Drifters are the same story- we have no idea how these conflicts even work (where and how they’re playing out, and on what scale), much less who’s winning and who’s losing in the grand scheme of things.
You’re making assumptions, and as I’ve clarified before, that’s not good practice in theoretical work unless you draw clear lines between fact and speculation.
Compare a drifter battleship to a leshak which one is more powerful compare them from your own encounters.
Way I see it triglavians had quite some time to advance in technology since the Stasis Faction went to sleep yet their ships aren’t as advanced by far.Sure they may have made big stockpiles of materials but eventually any stockpile runs out and any defense can be breached with enough time.So this ‘looming’ danger you mention could just be that they can’t hold out indefinitely.
The Xordazh, despite being a World Ark, is demonstrably a new design based on the original “Kitzeh” World Arks they likely used to escape into the Abyss - while the older design is all-but-certainly a haven ship, the Xordazh has been drastically modified for the assumed purpose of more forward/responsive action.
It’s also obvious that Drifter superweapons can’t function in the Abyss, or wouldn’t be effective enough for some reason, given that not one encountered Tyrannos vessel below has been observed to fire one - thus drastically reducing their threat level. The Triglavians don’t seem to be in immediate danger; rather, the reaction they’ve been exhibiting against Drifters in particular seems to be “they’ve entered the Abyss, they are the Ancient Enemy, they must be removed” and not “we’re dying”.
However, they’re obviously setting up for more active action against those who threaten them - Kresnik Svarog will oversee Sansha extirpation (@Aiden_Vayle the record HFN5 actually does explicitly mention that the Sansha have been encountered outside of the Proving loops), and Zorya seems to have significance in terms of New-Eden-side operations.
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Calling something an “World Ark” (as opposed to “World Ship” or “Crafted World”) does invoke fleeing from a place of catastrophe to a place of not-catastrophe - with the further intention of making a go of things after arriving in that place of not-catastrophe.
Of course, we cannot know if this invocation is intentional.
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It seems most like an unintentional invocation, honestly- we don’t know what exactly the Xordazh will be used for, but we know that “World Ark” was the classification of the original Kitzeh design, so that classification may just be an artifact of the Xordazh’s design lineage. If they do need an Ark due to Sansha (and possibly Drifter) assault, though… welcome to Nullsec, plenty of room?
You’re assuming they won’t find a home somewhere else. If they can somehow make a home of the most inhospitable places in this universe, then they don’t need to go back so long as they can keep going forward.
On the other hand… imagine how virulently they could spread, once they’ve made themselves at home, in a place where it’s easier to get by.
Is it weird if I’m really looking forward to finding out what they’re like?
I mean, if they’re going to be moving in, we’ll probably get to see something of them. Not necessarily in, like, the cantina, but at least we’d probably pretty quickly find out what their biology’s like and how they differ from baseline humanity as we think of it.
CONCORD might have had prisoners (the crew, if any, of the captured vedmak), and might even still have them, but has been awfully quiet about the details which really just pricks my curiosity that much more.
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I think relations are going to be… stunted, to say the least, for a fair while.
How they look like?
Im looking forward to some repeated-time playful communion with a trio as a welcome to New Eden 
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Apparently not.
Then the Sansha threat is orders of magnitude larger than our worst-case scenarios paint it, and we’re probably all fukked.
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My thoughts exactly.
There have been reports of a Thukker City being built, I think singular at the moment, but that is taking a lot of time to build. Which points to the Triglavians having a much better grasp of industry and presumably materials to hand. I don’t know though, could they be searching for, or heading towards Jove space? There are odd lines in some of the intercepted communications that indicate they are surprised not to see a Jove presence.
Well, you’ve got to remember, the Triglavians seem to have left New Eden during the Second Empire’s reign. If we were around at the time, especially before the Shrouded Days and the Jove Disease… if we’d seen the Jove’s greatest heights… we would probably expect the Second Empire, in some form or another, to exist forever.
That they’re attempting to reach Jove Space is an interesting suggestion… any chance we can ride in on their coattails?
Hopefully. But they have commented on the Jovian iter 2 polity a number of times.
Uhm… no, not singular. An entire class of ships that have been under development for nearly a decade. Considering that it only takes 24h for nano-assemblers to construct a Keepstar these days… I dunno if it’d take that long to build those city ships, if the actual design work is done.
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