you do know that miners are very selective of where they work. They will hire out to prevent others from coming into their “territory” not to mention SAFETY and CODE. both have miners in their squad… they are just taking out the competition.
You know asset safety really hurts as you get to bigger ships… And with how easy it is to make ISK these days… Incursions Abyss lv 4 missions PI I don’t get what’s wrong?
Welcome back to the grind? You should be lucky you can even have your ship if asset safety wasn’t enabled or not a thing this thread wouldn’t even be here.
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CCP is helping you a lot by storing those items for you until your return, instead of throwing them out in space for everyone to loot.
Of course they cannot do that for free, otherwise everyone would be using asset safety to move their stuff instead of paying transport costs.
The result is a middle ground, where your items are still safe after years of inactivity, but you have to pay a fee to get it out.
The main alternative would be that you have no fee to pay and that your items would be gone. Would that be better?
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You say that like that’s the only alternative. CCP could send the stuff to HS. CCP could charge based on size and not value like most shipping in EVE. CCP could just leave the stuff in system. CCP could ship everything to the nearest trade station, put the items up for auction, deduct 10% for processing fees, and put the rest of the ISK in ones account. CCP could even have a setting that you pick between a few different responses on what you want to happen should you be gone from the game for an extended period.
I could go on and on about what CCP can do. I agree that paying to get your stuff feels like being punished and I feel that there should be a better solution applied. What that solution is? Well that’ll be different for different individuals. That said someone drag a member of the CSM here and lets start a conversation on what kinds of changes we want in place to improve things. Then our CSM representative can have a conversation with CCP about what we want changed and our desired solution.
Don’t just piss on someone for pointing out a problem in the game. Point out possible solutions to help address the issue or educate them on why it’s necessary. (I don’t see this particular one as necessary in the way it’s implemented though the mechanic of moving gear is needed)
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Let me get this straight. You are saying everyone would blow up their station to get a free ride?
Mr Epeen 
I guess you are unaware of the mechanics that let players use asset safety on demand?
I guess I am. Please enlighten me.
Mr Epeen
If you log in you can find out for yourself.
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Since you are so adamant about having a csm show up… i’ll holler at @Brisc_Rubal since you can’t be arsed to tag him yourself, probably because you know this is a worthless battle you are trying to have.
So you are mad about having to pay 15% of the value, but are fine with losing 10% of the value for processing? wut.
That your way of saying you don’t have a clue?
Mr Epeen
Random % as an example of what CCP could do. I didn’t really think about being able to tag a CSM member as I don’t know who’s who at the moment so thank you for tagging them for me. That said don’t get all frosty and sour cause I’m asking people to do the impossible and act less like a troll and have a real conversation about the issue. People coming back to the game is good. People getting frustrated cause they feel like the’re being punished for having to deal with real life and being away from the game isn’t so good for the game.
lets be adults (as if adults are any better than children) and actually talk through the problem and possible solutions that make sense.
don’t store stuff in a structure… if that station would have been destroyed, your stuff still would have been put in asset safety, unless it was abandoned, then you’d have zero stuff to come back to.
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Be docked at a different station, open your asset window, rightclick the station with assets and select ‘move all items to asset safety’.
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Thanks, Gerrard.
Now can you explain how that has anything to do with the OP?
Mr Epeen
If you had read my previous posts you would know.
Edit:
To spell it out, you asked why anyone would blow up their own station for free transport. I explained how it does not need to explode to use asset safety as free transportation method, which is one of the reasons why there is a fee for asset safety.
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Okay, read it. Still not seeing a connection between coming back to the game after some length of time and finding your stuff in asset safety compared to being an active player and moving your stuff into asset safety.
He’s complaining about the asset safety fees. Not asset safety.
I explained why the fees are there.
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remove asset safety. and when a station is destroyed (that is not in abandonded mode) assets in structure drop.
What would you find appropriate?
Why do you say that? Make a reasonable argument for your statement. I’m not saying you’re right or wrong but give some reasons as to why you say that.
You gonna whine and feed the trolls or are you gonna engage in serious conversation about how to make the game better? While I don’t agree with their views there is a point to be had for one loosing everything. Try to understand things from their point of view and propose the changes you think will better the game. Don’t just complain.
I agree that it’s a middle ground but is it the right middle ground? There isn’t only ever one solution to a problem. Whatever makes you think that the main alternative would be having all ones items gone? I can think of several alternatives that I think would be more likely. Can you look at the problem from another angel and help find a better solution rather than just shoot someone down? Help make the game better!
I see asset safety as a offsite storage facility. When you go to places like U-Haul or whatever, you pay to store your stuff. I see the asset fee as the comparable storage fee in that you are paying to retrieve your stuff that was put in storage (either by you or by CONCORD.)
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