lol how are you saving me from myself ptraci
If you have to ask that you havenāt been reading my posts. By suggesting you integrate into a larger EVE community instead and/or adapt to EVE Online instead of pretending it should be adapted to suit you. Things change. The rules change. CCP changes. Adapt. Or die. Itās the story of life, really.
im not pretending it should be adapted to suit me
i already told you i dont fly caps or own poses
i just found your hostility towards the op interesting when you had absolutely no argument against their idea
and then i called you an elitist brat and you started clutching at straws to make it seem like you have a valid explanation for your hostility
which you dont
ive only seen one valid opposition to the op in this thread and that was march rabbit when he said astrahauses are too boring to kill relative to the value of the km
its not much of an argument but its better than anything youve come up with
In my opinion the existence of Fortizars and keepstars makes the need to dock capitals in an Astrahaus totally unnecessary and I donāt think any changes need to be made. Other players are right, if you canāt afford a Fortizar I donāt think youāre going to afford the capital fleet you want to park in it and tethering + safe log offs is even safer than docking in a citadel.
The other advantages of citadels over classic POSās makes them better utility hubs for null and wormhole operations as well.
How is it changing the game to fit ātheirā playstyle?
Thatās how the game was! The developers changed the game from a solo person being able to place a POS for less than a billion and store his capital/super to needing a 12billion isk investment to accomplish the same task while making itself an even bigger target.
The developers CHANGED the game to fit THEIR playstyle.
P.S. Iām in a corporation that has access to fortizars. I have places to store my capitals.
Iām thinking outside of my personal experience and considering those who might wish to participate in a playstyle that is different than mine, a playstyle that will no longer be possible after CCP removes the player ability to place a POS.
People saying safe log tethered to an astrahus, what happens when you log back in and the astrahus is bubbled?
I believe you get bubbled. Similar to log in to POS under siege and covered by bubbles.
The only difference i see is that citadels have bigger tether area and it is more difficult to be fully covered by bubbles.
And if citadel has any defences and person to use it bubbling it would be impossible.
so what happens if you store your capital into a POS ship maintenance array and log out and your POS is bubbled when you come back in?
Is your capital still safe in the POS ship maintenance array?
See
Iām not sure but i think it is.
I am not comparing a small pos to a fort, I am actually saying the opposite that a Fort is actually a replacement for outposts and keepstars are just next level beyond outposts as you can dock super caps which is extra functionality and Astraās are a replacement for all the POSās which had a variability in how featured they would be, what I suggest is adding back in some of that veritably rather than having a one size fits all approach, So the astra with the cap service would be your replacement for large POS with a cap SMA.
And as I said all you need to to remove the safety it could potentially give you is that anything in the cap service hanger gets dropped just like a cap SMA which seems fair considering the cap SMA dropped itās items.
And no your ships wouldnāt be safe in a POS this way they would not be safe in a Astra either.
Well I already kind of replied to that but you can safe log inside inside a bubble I am fairly sure, also again you can just use a 500MN cruiser to bump off a cap if it is tethered, tbh a safespot is more secure than tethering, also again if you simply make anything in the cap service drop it is as insecure as a POS.
Actually no I kicked out there people who lived there and they transferred there Astraās to me in exchange we contracted a astra we were going to put down and paid off the cost of the other.
Difference between that and this is that CCP said they were going to keep the all the functionality of POSās, they never said they were going to keep the functionality of the watch list, in fact from the outset they said they were going to change it, if CCP came out and said ānoā¦ and this is the reason whyā¦ā I would be like ok w.e. I donāt like it but it is what it is.
But as long as CCP is portending they are keeping all the functionality I will bring up that they are not, and ways that they could add the functionality back without breaking the system.
Pleas take note that I have suggested balancing it by
High service cost
Consumes fuel
Limited space
Drops everything in the cap service hanger if the cit is destroyed āAlso I think it should be on the killmailā
If you donāt have the service you cannot even dock caps
If you do not have rights to the service you cannot change ships from your cap if you dock with one.
If the service hanger is full you cannot change from a cap ship to anything other than another cap.
Hanger would also be able to be accessed with anyone with rights so people can steal it.
I have not mentioned this but you should also not be able to repackage caps either.
There is probably a few others which I have forgotten, those are enough drawbacks that I think anyone who had the money for a fort would buy it, also if you really wanted to you could also have it so that only the number of caps that the service can hold can be undocked within say 5 minutes this would limit itās usefulness as a beach head with people who could afford to spam them.
Also with the changes to moon mining you might be agreeing with me sooner or latter as massive blocks are likely to fracture although a keepstar or 2 is still not going to be that difficult but you are going to also have a lot of smaller entities popping up or splintering off.
I have to kinda agree with the OP, the astrahus is kinda a replacement for small-med towers which could online a cap sma even if your defenses would be a little short. In that regard if an astrahus is supposed to give you the same functionality as a small or medium, than it needs to allow caps to dock, there really is no logical reason to deny them to. The only reason CCP chose to is because they wanted a tiered approach to citadel sizes. No caps -> caps -> super capsā¦I mean a tier model should work right? It has ships and mods for so many years. >.>
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