Avalon Event & Ninja Looters

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I wish the event was spread to many systems and not just few.

Pro’s

  1. Good interaction
  2. Good loot

Con’s

  1. By the time you get to some systems they have finished.
  2. I feel like a ping pong ball going to a completed system then having to travel so many gates to a new.
  3. Whilst doing a combat one, i find others come in on the last ship and wait until i kill the last ship only for them to ninja loot and leave with a quicker ship.

Sorry i’m not going to burn my own time for someone else to come and ninja loot leaving me with nothing. So i’m going back to mining.

These events need to be balanced properly for people participating be it solo or group.
Why do i need to spend my precious time after work when the clock is ticking in an event where i get ninja looters when in fact my precious time can get me more isk from what i usually do.

C’mon devs, reward those that participate properly aye.

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Nice to see Ninja Looting is still going on. :smiley:

One of the best parts of EvE.

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Back in the day during my first Guardian’s Gala event (in February 2017) I was running the event sites on my main character flying my Gnosis (which less than two weeks earlier was gifted to me by a friendly ice miner). Despite it was fun to run the sites it got boring after a while so to break up the repetition but still participate and gain stuff from the ongoing event I’ve decided to create a new character to steal the event loot with as a change of pace. This way I was able to alternate between my main and thief alt gaining event rewards consistently just the same.

As the thief playstyle proven to be both exciting and lucrative I had lots of fun with this new alt so instead of biomassing or at least abandoning it or using it for other purposes I’ve decided to keep it as a dedicated thief alt. However as the event was over I had to find a place where I can reliably find loot to steal without much hassle also keeping in mind my casual (random sign-ins and time available) gaming habit.
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I agree. Spend 75% of my time just flying around to get to a site, just to have nothing to do. Event site way to limited.

Also the progress line shows not progress. You need to complete too many site/activities just to get it to move. Salvage 150 ships before you get a thing.

Very disappointed in this event.

Why pack everyone in so tight.

Just going back to my regular game play. May even play something else until this mess completes. Will just login for my daily stuff. Event not work my time.

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They go suspect if they ninja loot. Just pre-lock them, and scram + kill once they loot.

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ninja looters remember to fit guns and a scram too so you can deal with vigilantes in the only way they understand.

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I agree with the OP about this Avalon event, the game mechanics directing this event are extremely unbalanced, specifically the very short life span of Vanguard event systems coupled with the very large amount of Agency goals to complete… That basically makes this event extremely unfriendly and quite frankly, alienates most players by making it not worth their time to engage…

Yesterday I was in a secluded high sec island cluster of 3 systems located 4 jumps deep in low sec space when the Vanguard event hit a system I had just scanned and completed exploration sites in… All of a sudden 10 event combat anomaly sites and 5 event signature sites spawned so I started scanning them… After scanning 3 of the signatures to 100%, local spiked up from 1 player (me) to 6 players, by the time I had scanned the other 2 sigs to 100%, local had 8 players total in it…

So I started running the event Flotilla Observation Outpost hacking sites and by the time I had completed the 1st hacking site, 2 other hacking sites dropped off the list… Course more sigs spawned and in-between scanning and hacking / warping to other sites, I noticed more sites were being quickly completed compared to the spawn rate..

While trying to complete the hacking sites, I noticed nobody was doing the event AEGIS Joint Operations Center and Upwell Wreckage combat anomaly sites… While trying to complete the hacking sites, I saw 5 different players mostly flying Astero’s… Unfortunately for me they must of had their ships fit for speed with scanning / hacking mods since they were consistently faster in scanning, hacking, warping and traveling…

As for the hacking sites, the cans are placed over 50km from warp-in, each have large hacking grids filled with Medium Level 3 Orange Cores with lot’s of Restoration, Anti-Virus and Firewall Sub-systems… I can honestly say these Avalon event hacking sites are not easily and quickly completed compared to previous events…

Anyway, it seemed to me the Vanguard event mechanics are based on maintaining 10 combat anomaly sites and 5 hacking signature sites active within the system… However due to all the players there who were specifically running hacking sites, there was never more than 3 signatures present in the scan list… I also noticed the Vanguard status seemed to only last for about 1 hour and immediately after that, local quickly became empty again leaving me sitting there amazed and flabbergasted from trying to compete in that 1 hour minuteman sprint for event sites…

I did manage to complete 3 hacking sites which gave me a total of 6 cans, definitely a far cry from completing the goal of hacking 30 cans for 250 Agency points, let alone getting 1000 points to complete the Agency point spread… However I will say the loot from the event hacking sites was fairly good which consisted of various Hardwiring Implants, T2 Salvage, Ship Skins, Skinr / Manufacturing / Research materials and of course, Vanguard Resonant Cyphers…

I’ve since gone back to a major Trade hub to fit up a T2 Covert Ops Frigate for agility and speed in warping, traveling, scanning and hacking.. I highly doubt I’ll even be able to get some points on the Agency event board but I’m going to try it once again, only this time I hope I’m much better prepared to do it…

So yeah, in my opinion the set up for this event is disappointing, not to mention the Agency event rewards are lackluster and unappealing… Also despite CCP/FC’s statements, I don’t think this event is Alpha / New Player friendly…

Normally I’d just ignore this event but after previously experiencing that 1 hour minuteman sprint for event sites while being unprepared, I definitely have to try it again…

DMC
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Well, I tried warping to several event systems and like the OP said, when you get there it’s almost completed… Since I don’t have the luxury of being in-game 24/7, it’s definitely a waste of time for me to chase down VG systems in an attempt to complete this event…

Hopefully CCP/FC will realize their current event set-up isn’t working for most players…

DMC
o7

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This is by far the worst event I have played. Just like most events it seems to benefit the scumbags. How newer players have any chance of completing it is beyond me. If they do they will be so sick of the game they would probably quit. 10 jumps to a system when the event is half over, try to do any event tasks and someone with good skills and a pod full of implants and an expensive ship and fit and they will just come and take your hard work. At least give us a way to kill them. Maybe polarize their ship once they take from a site that has been started and give you automatic kill rights. I think this will be the last event I do.

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On one hand… why shouldn’t the fully skilled veterans have a better payout than some guy starting an alpha account? So your example of “newer players” I feel is misplaced. On the other hand I feel like you are right in that this event doesn’t reward people, even veterans with high DPS combat ships, who actually do the work. I feel like this event is much worse than Federation Day, Winter Nexus, or Researching the Rogues event which still had ninja looters but could actually be fun. It is almost as if the person who made this just enjoyed seeing players suffer.

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I’m not just on about players steeling your hard work. Just make it if they do there’s a chance for you to defend your hard work. They don’t need to fit a ship for all aspects of the site like most people do so they might sacrifice all their amour and cap for high dps. Then they can let you get agro and just kill the battleship and get the rewards. If you could defend your site by attacking them without getting blown up by concord you would have the advantage. And to make it so people don’t just fit their ships for pvp when they aren’t actually wanting the site rewards, make one of the downsides of trying to steal a site or going to a site just for pvp, is that their resistances are polarized. There’s still a chance a good experienced player could get the site and kill you but it would give you a big advantage and add more content. There’s probably lots of holes in my suggestion but I’m sure that if “CCP” wanted to they could implement something along those lines and it would make for a much better experience for everyone. Stealing just needs consequences. Just look at the last event. You needed a pretty decent cruiser fitted to defend the 3 sites so your warp speed and alignment was slow. People were just jumping into a fast warp frigate, waiting for you to finish the site that you wasted 20 minutes on and they were guaranteed to beat you to the can and get the rewards for all your work and there was nothing you could do about it.

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Event sites are free for all. Deal with it.

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