Says there its a Complex.
Pretty sure all sturctures with station facilities are stations as well as being Structures.
No it does not. Itâs an engineering complex, which is a group that belongs to the category structures.
they are not.
They belong only to one of the categories :EITHER structures or stations.
BTW the only structures that are deployed by NPC, which you can find here
https://everef.net/categories/65
are the diamond fobs and diamond sotiyo.
You are however right that some structures can fit station services. Not the NPC structures though.
Nothing you said changes what I said. I didnt say a Complex isnt a structure.
But all Structures do not provide station facilities, so therefore Stucture alone as a term doesnt differentiate it from a space station, a Starbase or a POCO.
True.
This is due to Station, station, Starbase and Structure all being CCP keywords, with the exception of station.
Is there a word then for what (in non-EvE terms) is defined as being a space station that can be a Structure or a Station?
You are right in the rules defining that, but if I just talking about a place I can dock and depod, whether its a Structure or a Station, whats the term ?
Space hut!
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You wrote âcomplexâ, which is wrong. It is an âengineering complexâ.
Complexes are other things. Faction warfare - EVE University Wiki
yes? Still calling a cat a dog is a bad thing.
Nope.
I guess âdockableâ would fit. But then it removes some.
service can also be offered in space, by mobile depots and other ships.
There is none. They are fundamentally different, in that a structure is dynamic while a station is static. Stations are create the moment the system is loaded, while structures can be created and destroyed between DTs.
I guess harbor would be a good term, since you can dock in them ^^ .
I just hope CCP does not screw up and create a new category/group called âharborâ.
The correct thing would be to for CCP to rename âstructuresâ to something else though. Now that outposts are removed, they could use that ategory instead ?
Yeah well Im still gonna call a space station a station. I dont do much that makes these (incorrectly applied by CCP) terms matter.
I think the intended way to avoid such a situation is by contacting the owner of the Sotiyo, to let them refuel the structure to (1) allow you get out your stuff and (2) to avoid getting everything to drop due to the abandoned state.
If you do not know the owner or the owner has been offline for long enough for the structure to go abandoned, itâs a very big risk to keep your stuff inside their structure.
fixed : donât use structures you donât own, unless you donât mind losing your bpos (like parts BPOs).
Thatâs the exact reason I started using my own structures, before CCP added the cores and the abandoned state. Now it takes 2years to research a BPO in station? yeah, whatever. You set your omega alts, then you start the 30 jobs and stop being omegas for 2years.
Well, atleast they are aware of it.
Sure, so this could all be working as intended, and you could just be mistaken.
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This is an outrageous accusation, and we have taken note of your egregious insult. You will be hearing from us in the future.
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I was referring to them as structures based on the more colloquially accepted definition of what a structure is.
so, saying a cat is a dog because itâs the âmore colloquially accepted definitionâ is okay ?
/me takes notes.
Stations are structures.
They are listed in the âStructure Browserâ.
If they were not structures they would not be listed there.
No. proof : they are not structures but are still listed in the structure browser.
Stations and structures are two different categories, with no element shared.
Itâs pretty clear that stations are a type of structure. They are clearly listed in the Structure Browser as a category of structure, along with Citadels, Engineering Complexes, etc. There is no âStation Browserâ.
Stations are a structure.
Itâs trivial that stations are not structures.
Just because they are listed along stuctures does not make them structures.
Stations are clearly listed in the âStructure Browserâ. If you have an argument as to why they are some sort of magical exception, make it.
I donât need to, itâs just illogical. Just because they are listed in the structure browser, does not mean that the structure browser only lists structures. The structure browser lists structures AND stations.
You use the definition : structures are types that belong to the category âstructuresâ, while stations are types that belong to the category âstationsâ. Just like modules are types that belong to the category âmodulesâ and ships are types that belong to the category âshipsâ.
Those categories have zero item in common, therefore stations canât be structures and structures canât be stations.
You canât. Itâs okay, I understand.
What other non-structure entities does the Structure Browser list?
Because stations are a type of structure. ^-^
False analogy.