Bring back old proving grounds

[Gustav_Mannfred]

I am thinking of doing CSM again this year, letting you vote again for the old arena (and the proving ground events)

[Gustav_Mannfred]

On July 14 the next request celebration event starts, CCPls would it at least be possible to have regular proving ground events?

[Dantelion_Shinoni]

The regular proving ground events asked for man-hours to create the events and the filaments were starting to be too much.

Just bring back the old proving grounds, the new design failed which shows that the problems they have been trying to solve were incorrect.

[Zeir_Valhalla]

Bump for more awareness.

[Gustav_Mannfred]

New video explaining what the old arena & the proving grounds were, interesting for players that did not play back then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZaczrWj5yI

[Arthur_Aihaken]

Not to tank the idea, but it was pointed out in the video that these existed prior to T6 abyssals… So how would they be the same? How would they be different?

[Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras]

they aren’t coming back…

[Gustav_Mannfred]

The abyssal rooms themselves had nothing to do with the arena. The arena was always the same regardless of the tier and weather you did. So that would mean, if it was brought back and the gate would also spawn in T6, then it would have no effect on the arena itself.

[Arthur_Aihaken]

So why exactly do we need these again? I mean, they were removed for a reason… no?

[Gustav_Mannfred]

The old arena was fun and enjoyable pvp content. The idea was that you take that optional gate at the end of the last room to get to the pvp room. There you wait 5 min and if no one enters you grab loot.

They were removed for the proving ground filaments, that was the reason.

[Arthur_Aihaken]

@Gustav_Mannfred

They were removed for the proving ground filaments, that was the reason.

And the filaments don’t exist at present, correct?

[Gustav_Mannfred]

yep exactly, they somehow planned to return them in January, but got abandonned again without any announcement or whatever.

Proving Grounds again abandonned after deploying two new events and 23 new Reward Skins on SISI (SISI build 2454901)

As the title says it, in December, on December 19 2023, CCP deployed a new SISI build that you can find here: Hoboleaks: Singularity_Previous (Build: 2448204) to Singularity_Next (Build: 2454901) When you look at the new items, you will find that CCP added 23 new abyssal glory skins that players earned that got into the top 100 of a leaderboard. These include skins for the Mamba and Alligator, that were added with the Havoc expansion. This indicates that the art team made them somewhere between…

[Arthur_Aihaken]

What I’m curious about is why? I sounds like they put some effort/thought into the new version… What are the chances this might be in the November release…?

[Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras]

Maybe im a realist. Swift even said not to assume something will make it in game cause it was there. If they move away from current expansions they could bring em back but until swift says otherwise i dont see them coming back anytime soon.

[Anabella_Rella]

I’m still not seeing anything official as to why the content was removed. Am I missing something?

[Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras]

@CCP_Swift

The Proving Grounds events are on an indefinite hiatus. We appreciate that there are a set of fans who really enjoy them (we do, too!), however as we shifted over to the expansion release schedule that has taken the entirety of our focus.

Any future updates regarding the Proving Grounds will come in the form of an official news item; I would warn against trying to glean information from any updates picked up on a testing server, like from Hoboleaks, without any official announcements.

I know it’s not the answer you were hoping for, but I appreciate your understanding.

@CCP_Swift

I do understand your excitement for the Proving Grounds. You mention that CCP Kestrel gave the Abyssal Lurkers community an update, and to be fair he did add not one, but two caveats that things may not work as planned.

@Kmescic_Irogulasin

This was also the last time we heard anything related to the arena. After that there was never an update again about the Proving Grounds

This was also addressed in the Director’s letter, and I did answer a few people from the community as well. You know Gustav very well and he can attest to the fact that I told him directly on multiple occasions that the proving grounds were on an indefinite hiatus, as announced in the director’s letter.

Devs at CCP share a huge passion for EVE, and part of what makes the game unique is that we’re able to have a close connection to our players. As a player, this was always my favorite part of the CCP-Player relationship, and as a developer I can attest to the fact that interacting with players is one of the best perks! I’m sorry that an interaction like this didn’t sit well with you, but - despite our best 90%'s - sometimes the 10% does win out.

Thanks for understanding!

this!

[Arthur_Aihaken]

So basically it got dropped so they could roll out Equinox on schedule.

[Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras]

that and any other expansions that will be coming

[Gustav_Mannfred]

The old arena can be voted again for CSM this year:

Gustav Mannfred for CSM 19 - Vote the Old Arena & Proving Grounds (again)

Eve Story: I started playing on March 21, 2009. In the early times I did mainly PVE stuff such as mission running and exploration. Later, I dipped into PVP. In 2015, I joined a nullsec corp for the first time. It was in pureblind. I did nullsec ratting sites and pve there. In 2016 to 2018, I lived in providence as a neutral person. In 2018, CVA lost control over Provi and then I went back to hi sec . I did FW PVP from time to time, but focused on missions and exploration again. I did wormhole d…

[Gustav_Mannfred]

Thank you for voting for the arena, I made a quick breakdown of my campaign that you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxBXVxKQIB5bmSt0dzCeaLe8WfC11K-RW7