Marauders should not be invincible, but a properly fit multi-billion ISK T2 battleship should not be cheap spreadsheet prey either.
Restoring some of the lost buffer would not remove ganking. It would simply raise the cost and commitment required to kill one.
That is balance. The Marauder pilot is already risking billions. The gank fleet should have to commit accordingly.
And, absolutely make no income while doing it. Lots of fun there.
I wonder if we can run Abysssls in Exordium?
This is the “stumbling block” of this entire debate.
I doubt it. They said they would punish old players for living there.
Everything comes at a price. Totally intentional. 100% safety goes along with crappy income. Thats called balance.
My suggestion would be not to go into there and take the 0.043325% risk of being ganked by playing normally in the rest of Highsec. Or even better, leave Highsec and begin to play the real game without being babysitted by a magic NPC police force.
Subjective.
Everyone is playing the real game here. You do what you want and others do what they want. Theres no area in the game that is the “real game” and to think that is just foolish.
Ease down on the elitism.
100% the way it should be. Some people love building. Let them!
That was a 3-party battle with pretty even fleets. The Lif was able to tank for a long time, thus it died last and had almost everyone on it at some point.
But since you have absolutely no idea about how PvP works in this game, how could you know. You obviously can’t even read killboards.
I was hoping you’d bite.
You had a massive battle and ONLY shot one ship?
Do tell 
You seem to be having a hard time keeping up.
So, let’s not throw stones.
Maybe you learn the game (and to read killboards) before engaging in discussions about gameplay changes. Maybe (just maybe) then anyone could take you seriously and you’d not look like a total fool.
You’re players checkers, mate.
Just last week, an attempted ganked occured when I was flying my marauder through Gheth. I made several mistakes, but still survived. I did not buffer fit, I was not in my crystal implants (or any implants), I got ship scanned a few jumps out and did not change course, I did not scout, I entered Gheth, Moa scramed me, a bunch of cats warp in, I did the only thing I could and bastion+overheated, and I survived with 50% hull.
If it was a simple spreadsheet prey, I should have died, but I didn’t. Marauders can and do survive ganks. I didn’t have anything special, just a bil in modules.
Exception, not the rule.
Show me one of the attacker’s KM…
I love it!
Holdmybeer was one of the few people quick enough to catch me.
I think he had an extra second worth of server tick.
But I gave several “GF’s” in local. (I was impressed.)
He said he doesn’t even remember you.
What do you mean their Dmg doesn’t stack???
You mean the capsule-crew module is only limited to one ship using it???
Idk that, in which case, would be preferrable to use T1 BS or T2 Destroyers maybe??
Prepared gankers don’t waste ships when they really want that juicy target down… and gate camps they don’t have to fly towards you… it’s you landing right into their arms… A Cenotaph right onto you with the right mobility and assist, will not go down immediately 80% Omni with 400HP/s Shield rep + maybe a T1 Dominix to buffer tank and help with remote rep drones…
The Cenotaph is a monster in the right hands…
It’s unlikely to be deployed in HS, if the target isn’t juicier enough
But math is math, 190k EHP DMG in 2 mins is more EHP any Marauder has, and don’t care about res profile either…
We can exchange this with one 20-30 Destroyers and you’ll get
roughly the same results, with a minor investment, they will overwhelm
any Marauder no as nothing has changed. Exactly like before.
The “problematic” POV has nullified all the efforts made to bring
Marauders survivability into effect.
The New Faction modules hikes the “juiciness” up and makes matters worst.
What is the “problematic” threshold here?
Bacause now the survavibility rate is again back at “ZERO” vs
a modestly organized camp gank.
And it wasn’t like more than 10-20% when plates bonus where on…
“if a Fleet of Marauder is problematic” and “there’s no enough Moros”
Who get to choose if BUFF the Moros or NERF the Marauders???
I remember my first Vargur loss, there was no Bastions back then.
It HIT HARD on me. I’ve gone back to flying t1 BS after that and never touched a Marauder again untill Bastions came along…
Lost a couple, one more Vargur, and a Golem…
T2 ships with less tank than t1 ships.
Then came the 100% Bonus plate for al BS Hulls.
For the first time I survived a gank in a Marauder.
Before, it always ended miserably for me.
“Problematic”
