Make Marauders Great Again (MMGA)

Marauder Un-nerf:
• Ship Warp Speed: 3.5 AU/s
• 100% bonus to Shield Extender hitpoints
• 50% bonus to Armor Plate hitpoints
• 5% additional bonus to Reinforced Bulkhead hitpoints

Marauder Enhancement:
• Maximum Locked Targets: 9 (was 7)
• Bastion timer penalty: 30 seconds (was 60)

Marauder Tweaks:
• Golem and Paladin exchange one high slot for one low slot (5 low for Golem, 8 low for Paladin)

Revised Nov-23/24.

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Marauders were nerfed for a good reason. Undoing all those nerfs and giving them 2 more guns for no reason is going to turn the game into Marauders Online. Seriously, anyone suggesting giving marauders +2 hardpoints and not reducing their damage bonuses is either crazy or stupid. They already get a 100% bonus to damage so that 4 hardpoints looks more like 8, and you think they need 50% more?

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I sacrificed tank for dps when flying around in polarised marauders to run missions, the loss of resists felt reasonable for the 4-5k dps I got in a battleship.

They’re not buffer tanks, they’re active tanks so running polarised was actually not that bad. They don’t need buffer tank, just grow a pair and fit hard over on active.

  • 2 launchers, you’re proposing a battleship can field approx 6-7k dps? You know that right?

The idea was to allow them to mount a pair of RHMLs or RLMLs for anti-frigate/drones. The power grid may need to be adjusted accordingly.

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You seem to have forgotten the why.

The why for what? With respect to the hit point and warp speed nerfs - neither were needed.

The hit points was definitely needed. It was a basket buff with being a battleship that was just too powerful.

Warp speed is pretty meh.

There’s definitely no need to give even more dps to them though seeing as you didn’t even try to include those it seems you’re aware of that.

I respectfully disagree about the hit points. All battleships (including Marauders) should have these.

The idea wasn’t to give them an extreme amount of DPS - just a way to counter small ships and drones (with an adjustment to power grid to prevent abuse like mounting a pair of cruise or torpedo launchers).

Why?

Marauders are an extremely powerful battleship. Built around being a high damage but committed platform.

It does this by utilizing the most powerful active tank available to a sub cap. Their only real vulnerability is their capacitor and difficulty swatting small ships especially at range. Something that became ignorable when utilizing a buffer tank especially on one’s like the golem who was able to utilize the incredible resists to create a monstrously powerful passive tank.

If you want them to get the same hit point bonus from buffer mods you’re going to need to gut their resists.

Ccp rolled out a buff to battleships in general this buff wound up being too powerful with how it synergized with the existing stats of a marauder. So it was rolled back.

Then you want to go further and try to make them more effective against small ships?

You don’t want balance you want no downsides.

Marauders should get the hit point buffs, as the bonus was a compromise in lieu of XL plates/shield extenders.

Marauders are fine without the HP buffs of other battleships.

Again, I respectfully have to disagree on this point. The buffer may not be needed in Pochven, but it’s certainly needed in high-sec.

Paying attention to your surroundings is needed, not more HP. There is no content in HS that requires a buffer fit.

It’s needed for anti-ganking.

Don’t go into a system with gankers, that’s what paying attention to your surroundings entails…I say this as a person who regularly missions in high sec and never been ganked.

We’re not talking about Uedama… Gankers can show up in any system. It’s the buffer and not reps that determines your survival. It’s great that you haven’t been ganked; others have not been as fortunate.

Again, pay attention to surroundings. I never once mentioned Uedama. People lose ships because they don’t pay attention or get suspect baited. We should not be encouraging that behavior.

That’s BS.

They lose them at the gates, where their only defense is EHP.

Please stop making ■■■■ up.

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What is BS? I see people not paying attention.

And I see people spouting BS on the forum !