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And now finally remove the asset safety from citadels, so the game is meaningful again and you have to play active instead of going AFK with all your assets.

I’ve never seen so much effort to destroy a game. You will surely succeed one day.

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Yeah, and Ishtars were useful for PVE but they (and sentries) got nerfed into the ground because blobs of kitey shield Ishtars were annoying nullsec PVPers, so… this is why we can’t have nice things part 55.

:red_circle: You could never play active in the past when your assets were eternally safe in outposts? I think you are a bit mistaken here about what “active” means, Schätzchen.

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I agree, there are far more effective ways to combat bots if they put any thought into it. But instead they contrive all of these complicated changes that punish people who do not bot.

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Any change that makes grinders and botters whine is good because grinders and botters turn everything in to ■■■■.

Keep it coming CCP, give the power back to the (actively playing) people.

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Right now its too easy, having a titan or super parked somewhere, doesnt bother you at all, you can just go AFK and pay a tiny amount of ISK at the next low sec NPC station and thats it, Schätzelein.

Almost everything in EVE is about grinding bro.

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:red_circle: That has nothing to do with Asset Safety. What you worry about is the ability to dock supers and titans in the first place, which was a huge mistake. These ships should have never lost the mandatory requirement of coffining a character. Removal of asset safety just to “fix” this issue is about as worthless a solution as most contemporary CCP approaches to solve issues.

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The same thing that happens to it now: it goes into the owner’s pocket.

When exactly does “active” become “grind”, since you cannot really have one without the other.

e.g. sell t1/faction/t2 drones/ammo at higher than Amarr or Jita price at L4 mission hubs. Missioners will thank you and the extra profit is a tip for doing their hauling for them, basically.

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What? What is the point of that ridiculousness? The full 1% should to into SCC and players should only be able to add their own tax on top of that 1%. This is stupid.

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I understand the changes its ok to fix the market following real life stock market. But removing “Margin” is going agains what your are saying. Margin is totally and fully used in real life stocks and you guys are removing the most fun part of market trading. WHY? I just wonder why they hell you guys keep changing all this. Is it that al veteran players don pay their $15 per month on their 4 alt accounts? are you guys getting poor? stop changing ■■■■ or senior players are going to leave and you are left with a very volatile player base the newbees that you guys are focusing on.

BRING BACK MARGIN

MARGIN is fun and it generates taxes already. Its very basic if there is no ISK to pay MARGIN CALL then the buy order gets canceled very simple DONT CHANGE IT.

AS USUAL YOU GUYS DONT CARE AND KEEP CHANGING EVERYTHING

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Also a good idea, removing the ability again to dock titans and supers +1

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This type of trading already exists and makes players trillions. Saying it exists and it makes money because it supplies a demand is not really useful.

They are talking about seriously reworking other types of gameplay which is the debate at hand.

Yeah… Margin Trading is an essential part of the trading process. Not everyone has multiple billions of sink into their market orders. Us smaller traders rely on these margin orders to have a chance to get in that game.

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The point is that it forces the citadel markets to a point where the NPC station hubs can compete (which is exactly the opposite of what they claimed they wanted 18 months ago—they wanted to break up the ‘hubs’ then), while still giving players an incentive to establish those markets in the first place.

And you realize you’re not annoying CCP with those stupid fsking dots, you’re just annoying other players with them and making us want to ignore you, right?

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:red_circle: What I find interesting here is that CCP strays away from their “No skill should be a mandatory skill that does not allow for choice” mantra that they used to justify the removal of ME bonuses from industry. Now you must train ABR to not lose out on tons of money if you deal in the market. Interesting development.

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Hey. When they killed skillbook reselling with the “buy whatever skill you want straight from your skillqueue/character sheet” change, you shoulda known this was coming.

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