BS.
Letās also consider the biggest ISK sink in game is broker tax / transaction fee. If this change causes the market to shrink, and the new relisting fee fails to counter the loss of isk-sink due to the market shrinking, itās going to be even worse for the gameās economy. They are messing up the biggest isk-sink in the game.
You must be another of those 220IQ players.
Are you honestly suggesting market manipulation is somehow going to get nerfed from these changes and not become an even more powerful strategy than before to make an isky?
J Jonah Jameson Laughing meme indeed.
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Laugh all you want, Iāll carry on trading, and most of us will do the same. Industrialists such as you will find it even more difficult to buy / sell your orders, unless you sell / buy at cost (with almost 0 profitability margin). And when we human traders donāt happen to be there to drive your profits to the ground, the newly coded bots will do that for us. Enjoy, u sheep 
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Talking about IQ means you are a slave of whatever scale people judge you on.
lol ? Where did I suggest that market manipulation would change ?
I laughed at you claiming that you will now be able to do MORE market manipulation than before. The ability to manipulate the market will be only a bit lower, but anything you will be able to do now, you would have been able to do it before - jut cheaper.
Cry all you want. If it wonāt become profitable, I will do something else - until you ruin yourself and it becomes more profitable for me.
Itās not like I had less than a hundred B worth of item waiting for good values, to sell them.
Itās not like I had not ability to make money while you are losing some.
The reality is, you are so butt hurt about those changes that you come here to insult people.
so much salt.
I donāt see how making any player able to buy/sell from the order they selected to solve the 0.01 war would help RMT.
I mean, this is traceable. CCP know the average price of each item and so can track any transaction which is way over the average price by their own softwares. Or even the massive ones, as it is not like someone need 1.000.000 Expanded Cargo Iā¦
Ok, it would be possible to transfer the money using more transactions within a long time window. But it is already the caseā¦ You just need to make the order elsewhere than Jita.
Thatās because you donāt understand (or pretend to) what is required to do RMT.
RMT needs to make an account gain money in a way that seems āprobably legitā. If you allow to ālegitimalyā make a mistake and sell 500 plex for one isk in jita, then you allow RMT.
So yes you can place a BO for 0.01 is/plex somewhere else , eg 5j from jita, but then if someone sells to you, he just claims himself as culprit of RMT.
Same for contracts, if you accept a contract that require you to to provide 500 plex for 0.01 isk, then you are showing yourself as a RMTer. Market fatfingers on the other hand are very common.
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Well Iāll be skill extracting all my market skills.
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Rewarding CCP for making a change you donāt like 
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Indeed that is true, but what good is millions of SP in skills that have no value? There are better ways to make ISK.
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You cannot accidentally fatfinger something that you do not see under normal circumstances. A 0.01 ISK PLEX order is usually buried under tons of better orders so that you do not ever see it. Strawman.
lol. That was exactly my point.
Relax. Itās just a bit of an āin-jokeā that some of my eve friends might recognize.
The JJJ meme seemed to be implying I was full of crap regarding market manipulation. Post low-effort memes in lieu of actual conversation, and thatās the risk you take I guess.
Sure sure. You make a very convincing argument with your zero reasons given lol.
Why would it be harder? You do realize there is more than one way to manipulate a market? Well probably not judging by your postsā¦
So I post one fat low-ball order that I break even or still make a small profit from and thatās it, same cost to me as before, and I can do this all day long thanks to fat stocks. Except now everyone that posted higher sell prices than me gets hit harder than before because THEY are the ones that are put in a tough spot, they can either meet my price and suffer the relisting tax, or sit on their zero sales and suffer wasted capital.
The point is to make them go screw this, Iām not making isk here and bugger off. They will be put under more pressure than before now.
The point is I will USE the new relisting cost as a way to hurt my competitors and drive them away so I have the market to myself to gouge everyone. Iām not talking about Jita here if thatās what you are thinking. Iām basically wrecking minor hubs for my own selfish reasons.
So of course there is going to be new market manipulation opportunities with these new changes, Iām going to have another weapon in my arsenal.
Thatās just a simple example, Iām not going to write a 50 page essay on all the different ways to manipulate and factors to consider.
Iām looking forward to these changes for my own selfish reasons, but I understand it could help hasten the demise of and/or have a negative impact on the game generally for player population. But hey live in denial all you want, whatever floats your boat.
Help a retard out. Are market prices going to go up, down or stay due to this? Why?
Anyone who claims to know this is lying. Itās going to be a long and messy adjustment process Iām guessing.
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Read my posts above, I donāt feel like retyping it. Prices are going to go up and down. Markets are inherently unstable, and decreasing liquidity will make it difficult for the market to match supply and demand. The result will be oversupply, followed by undersupply, followed by oversupply, with rigid and inelastic prices incapable of keeping pace. There will be gluts, and shortages, and gluts, and shortages, with the price oscillating wildly from day to day.
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You are assuming that bots will stop completely but i dont GUESS they will.
So now you are assuming bots will remain, modify their algorithms, meet and cancel each other out somehow.
Assuming that bots still doing what they do after the 10th, some will win some lose. Those that win will remain those that fail will stop. After that it is us against them.
When someone is playing the market with automatic bots and the conditions changed, what stops them to allow the same automatic machine keep working with the new condition and accept lower profit margin. The creators of the bots still donāt use any of their rl time profiting, it is still automatic but with less profit.
The question is what happens when we, real traders, cant compete against the bots anymore, when the smarter bots wins over the stupid ones and when there are no real traders competing against them.
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this thread got real
Thank you for the advices and having a positive look, it cheered me up.
I will not give up after the update and i will try finding a way to play the market with the new conditions and hopefully all the good things predicted will come true.
Maybe the new conditions make trading even more fun or maybe it will be to much boring excel work and i end up finding something else that is fun.
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its hard to guess, my inventory in ISK is massive and when the change was announced i was not, and still not able to figure out if i should sell or buy.
The broker fee/tax change was much easier to predict. This one not that much.
Most people i have spoken with predict that the price wont change that much either way so waiting and observing is better choice.