One side gets a distinct advantage is an argument. If that’s not convincing for you I don’t care.
Okay so give Calmil the same number then.
Which is why the warzone needs a restructuring so we don’t get a “3 fingers” impossible fortress down south as we do now.
Because of the strategic advantage. And again when they are next to each other it makes it impossible to push further. If it doesn’t matter then why are you fighting against it so hard?
In the context of the warzone there should be balance. “lol eve is not fair” is a nonsensical argument that ignores the fact that balance is a key point/goal of Eve.
Listen I get that you feel you are very clever and you get to whip out all your internet debate strategies, but relax Sun Tzu. This isn’t about “chestersons fence.” Fact remains if this doesn’t matter, then why are you here? I explained why it matters. Repeating ad nauseum that it doesn’t isn’t an argument. If it doesn’t matter then go find something else to do.
lol saying you haven’t done FW much is a personal attack now? Very sensitive of you. And your argument now is “snuff box can jump capitals in?” From an example from a year ago?
Asymmetry is still there if all sides have the same number of PFLs. Geography doesn’t have to change. This won’t make eve into a chinese map. What even is the relationship? Sounds like you don’t really have any meaningful reasons beyond “I like it” and “uhhh china server bad.” Come back with something better next time.
Then give Calmil the same level of protection if you don’t want any total victories. Match PFLs.
It’s already been explained to you that you have this backwards. If it doesn’t matter why are you still pushing for it so hard? Asymmetric geographic strengths and weaknesses is fundamentally a part of the natural balance of the game, and you bitterly saying „nuh uh“ to me shooting the messenger doesn’t change that.
It matters as a part of the natural asymmetric balance of the game. That’s why it doesn’t need changing.
You seem to have confused:
me asking you „why does it matter if there is a difference of 5 PFLs“, with;
me saying „it doesn’t matter if there is a difference of PFLs“
Note that YOUR answer to the first bullet point is „if it doesn’t matter“ not mine.
I am here because I gave you a long bullet list of why it does matter along some dimensions I care about: asymmetric balance and creative expression of the universe and it is still fair. I can be explicit for you: I believe it doesn’t matter as a part of fairness as status quo is still fair in and out of the warzone. Fairness is ultimately what you’re complaining about, not balance.
Regardless of your answers, I am considering all these effects, and I still believe your proposed change is suboptimal.
So your side needs the advantage because of “Natural” (whatever that is) asymmetry. Here’s where we stand today: Galmil is close to losing fliet and heyd. Both of these systems remain perma front line. Calmil cannot push forward because they will always be PFLs under the current mechanics thus always giving Galmil a constellation that’s basically impossible to take. Calmil has no such “asymmetric factor.” It seems like you simply want your side to have perks because it benefits you.
None of what you said means that Calmil cannot push pass those systems. Calmil absolutely can push pass those systems. You can have multiple front lines. If fact you have Calmil already farming those areas. You would think that with the amount of numbers that Calmil has, that the Caldari would not want everything to be rearguard and having more frontlines to defend would help get more people that LP to buy Navy Phoenixes.
Except that you will always have people coming in from the NPC side of space being able to push in. If heyd/fliet falls, Galmil does not suffer the consequences of losing those systems. Docking rights stay. Nothing changes for them.
Both Fliet and Heyd are 70-85 percent contested.
I mean for a 2010 character you have less than 500 kills. So to be fair you’ve never been much of anywhere doing anything.
Fliet has been there for a few months now…peaking at 94%. Those graphs were to show that there hasn’t been a spike up in victory points. You are as close as you were when you started this thread (though admittedly with the Shipcaster you were able to push from Oin to Heyd).
Yeah, that’s what a perma frontline is. Again it doesn’t stop you from conquering past those systems. It gives Caldari more space to defend sure, and thus more places for Caldari to farm at better LP rates when everything does turn blue. Unless ofc you want Goons to just smash in everyones face in while they gain the LP for PNIs.
Nobody uses the shipcasters. And yeah both systems are almost captured. Point stands.
This is like saying “yeah you can put your hand in a shark’s mouth, nobody is stopping you.” Again the PFL set up gives an unquestionable advantage to one side but not the other.
People clearly do use them though, even if you don’t. If they are almost captured, then why aren’t they being taken? You’ve had the chance now for a few months, always a few days away for a few months. Get it back to 90% before saying it’s close maybe and not when it’s been further from it’s peak.
No wonder you aren’t getting it…you think having room to farm is the same as putting your hand in a shark’s mouth. Well keep crying about unfairness as you win the forever war I suppose.
I don’t care about “farming” or whatever krab nonsense you find valuable. You’re missing the point. You’re not getting it. If this is a good game design it should be applied to the calmil side as well. Give calmil a corridor where almost every system is a PFL. After all if this is actually a “good thing” it should be applied there too.
What do you find valuable then? Good fights? PFL gives you that. Painting the map Blue…that will only last for so long as people grow bored and leave/or get pushed out by Goons or other null sec groups farming. Oh noes, your life might be slightly more difficult in painting the last 10 systems…“the horror”. Content is the point of the mechanic, whether it’s farming LP or blowing each other up.
Okay then put the same advantage to the Calmil side then. That way we can have “PFLs that give gudfites” and make sure “Goons or other null sec groups don’t farm us out” or whatever.
Don’t bother, this thread has trodden this ground so hard it’s basically perfectly smooth marble and OP just uses it to keep complaining about how PFL numbers make life unfair out of principle. There’s nothing left to reason about as long as in theory the numbers are not equal and therefore there’s theoretical unfairness and theoretical injustice.
We have a better chance sandpapering a hungry lions ass while wearing pork chop panties than getting through to OP.
