I should remind you that you have yet to convince CCP. All this is, is just a fantasy of yours. The laundry list of reasons others are giving you are all valid reasons, as it is the status quo. Mischaracterizing other’s arguments, or claiming to have authority of facts when you don’t is hurting your cause.
Well I paid for both of them, and I am talking as it was in general trials or not, but it doesn’t matter anyway because what I am trying to say is that if someone paid real money to play the game AT ANY point even for a month even with a discount even more than 10 years ago, they have the right to keep the name of their characters.
Those that never paid a dime maybe should be considered for a purge but I don’t care if they don’t because I never had a problem with creating a name for my characters in ANY GAME - the one I want is taken, fine, I request a random, change some of the letters, and eventually I get a name! Someone apparently can’t get over the fact that another person came up with the name they want before they did, and now they like a spoiled child want their toy!
You paid for a window of access; 1 month, 3 months, 6 months or a year? You are entitled to no name. You’re not even entitled to the name you’re using now. CCP could purge your name and there is no legal recourse you’d have. Plenty of paying customers have had their names deleted for being obscene. If paying a sub equates to ownership, they couldn’t do that. If paying for a sub equates to ownership, they could never suspend of ban anyone with an active, or even an expired, subscription. Because according to you if you ever gave CCP money at any time you own a piece of their server. It’s yours for life. I asked you before…
You continue to tuck tail and avoid answering this directly, while simultaneously pushing the same defunct narrative that your silence shows you know - YOU KNOW - is bogus. Your silence tells me your answer is, “No, you do not contend”. So what are you really doing here? Because you KNOW you are incorrect. Are you just here to toss ad hominems?
I opened an account with Sprint back in 2006 and paid for cell service. Am I entitled to that phone number today? Do I own that particular number? Can no phone service ever give that phone number I haven’t had since 2011 to anyone else? Or did I pay for cell service for a particular time frame? Any payment you made was for access to the game for the month in question. When that month was over, you got your money’s worth. You do not own the EVE servers, your character or any items in your item hold. You don’t even have full ownership of items or services you buy off the NES.
That being said, if you have logged in to the account in the last decade you have nothing to complain about. If the specific character has more than 5M SP (regardless of if you log in or not) you have nothing to worry about. Even if you have less than 5M SP and haven’t logged in you can log in right now and avoid any names being lost. So what is your issue, friend?
Do you actually have an issue or are you just trolling?
Exactly. All we can see is a lack of avatar, no change from starter corp and 0.0 for both corp and security status. But we know there are decades old inactive accounts nonetheless. But that’s neither here nor there. We know there are many trial accounts that went nowhere. We’ve probably made some of them ourselves at some point.
It doesn’t matter if any particular individual is active or not. What matters in this context is that long dead accounts, many of which being abandoned trials from over a decade ago, are limiting the name pool for active players decades later.
There are thousands of names and generated names you can pick. Because someone used a name you wanted, probably arent active, and now you want it, and want ccp to purge the names. I doubt they will do that again.
No I don’t work for CCP, but I do know their stance on even renaming a character. You keep your name and thus your reputation (or lack thereof). The ONLY time they will rename a character is if one violates the TOS/EULA.
IF they did agree with you, then they would have name purges already. Until you hear from them, or see otherwise, you have yet to convince them, that is how this works.
Yes I am. They can but they wont do it even if I say obscurities here on this very forum, the most they would do is ban me from posting, unless I cross a line that would get me fired from a job - then I may even get banned from playing the game! And the reason they won’t do it is that it is going to send a wrong message - who is then going to play a game that they may get banned for no reason and at any point from playing it solely “because the developers can do it”? Nobody!
You keep using the wrong examples - the services that provide you with “a window of opportunity” like the phone, cable, rent, etc are different kind of animals, they may share some features with what the gaming companies offer to the gamers but they are not the same!
You think that’s how it works: Someone makes a suggestion, and they instantly implement it? We don’t even know if they read any of this stuff. You’ve admitted you do not work for CCP, yet insist on dictating “how this works”.
List some examples of this fast turn-around implementation of forum suggestions that lead you to your conclusion. There must be many.
If they can purge your name then you have no ownership of it. Period.
Everyone. You are right now and so is everyone who agreed to the EULA. I’m not talking about being banned though. And just because they can doesn’t mean they will. But they still can. Previously, you basically have been stating you have a god given right to a name even though you admit that if CCP doesn’t like your name they can get rid of it regardless of rather you ever gave them money. You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth.
By “wrong examples” you mean not the exact same thing verbatim (i.e. an EVE Online account). In this way you can ignore all apt examples. They are exactly the same concept. An MMO subscription provides “a window of opportunity” just like internet service, phone service, a Netflix account, etc. They are all the same. You pay for access to a service.
You’ve stated you don’t agree with name purges. But do you have an actual critique?
For instance, what are the practical reasons that the following can’t be implemented?
Characters eligible for name purge
On accounts that have not logged in in over 10 years. Not the individual characters themselves, but the account.
Characters who have less that 5M SP.
Mass emails would be sent out 3 months prior notifying account owners to log into the account in question in order to keep their characters’ names.
This is targeting long dead accounts that never really got into EVE. These are characters created and instantly abandoned, most of which are going to be 2-week trial accounts from back in the day that never went anywhere.
I understand you disagree. But your mere dislike for something is not an argument against it. Likewise, me not liking onions is not an argument for why onions should be banned from grocery stores. We’ve already established that you have no ownership of your in-game name. So explain why a purge can’t happen. What is a hinderance?
Skyhook vulnerability windows, increased bounties on rats when they changed them to warp in instead of spawn in, having those same rats warp in a tighter formation, Swapping rewards from day 14 to day 10 on one of the reward tracks just to name a few.
Also realize that people have asked for name purges before your post, so it’s not just a matter of nearly a month, but one of years.
It is an actual objection to what you suggest, but you keep rejecting it because you think that only your opinion has any merit!
You still can’t tell the difference between someone who has never paid to play the game and someone who has paid but hasn’t played in a while!
Then you are telling me that even if we have paid we don’t own anything and just provided with “a window of opportunity” AND here you are demanding as if you own anything that CCP changes it to your liking, if you believe that we, the players of this game, don’t own anything why are you here with your request? You make ZERO sense.
And finally, regardless of how much we argue for and against, it is ultimately CCP’s decision if they want to do something about it, our job as players is to provide them with input, you gave yours and I already gave mine!
Exactly. The name purge is a service to new players. Those old dormant account names need to be released.
CCP isn’t a government, it doesn’t need to wait 50 years to release secret information.
Purge now!