Capsule Subsystem Holostorage EH-CN-J44-003

[Miran_Tereven]

@Arrendis

For example, the more the State gets battered by the Trigs—while the Empire had relatively little trouble with them—then the more the State is put into a position of relying on their Khanid partners, and through them, the Empire, for any short-term defensive needs that might arise in emergencies.

We may be willing to sell our products to foreign powers, but that does not mean that we depend on imports from our trade partners to stay afloat. The Megacorporations have always put a high emphasis on autarchy in the field of production and resource extraction in order to avoid such dependencies. Kaalakiota is the most well-known example of this, but the others do it too.

@Clementine_Lafleur

Namely allowing their closes ally to suffer such awful losses.

I can’t hear you over all that hypocrisy.

@Amicia_Cora

That the vision of unity and integration between all of the cluster’s peoples is not necessarily one shared by all nations today is a critique that I am forced to reluctantly accept

You were surprised to learn that a people that sacrificed their homeworld and subjected themselves to over a century of total war to avoid integration by a foreign power, in order to preserve their culture, would be reluctant to unite and integrate with other peoples?

@Amicia_Cora

though naturally my faith leads me to firmly believe that this can and will change with time

Co-operation resulted in roughly four out of five invaded Caldari systems falling to the invaders. The ability of CONCORD and EDENCOM to contribute to the security of our people has been grossly over-estimated. That is not a mistake that ought to be repeated.

@Amicia_Cora

There are unfortunately, however, a couple of elements here where I too must respectfully disagree with. First and foremost, I fear that I have to challenge your use of past tense to refer to EDENCOM and its function. EDENCOM is today an defense organization working to counter a particular threat that still exists in this present time. In so far as it performs its function, it is admirable.

If it is so admirable, then it would have reverse-engineered the Stellar Transmuter that was captured in the Arshat system so that we can finally begin to work on returning the 27 stolen systems to the fold, alongside undoing the bio-adaptations their inhabitants were forced to undergo.

@Amicia_Cora

And to be clear, there are elite navy forces from all Empires, State included, fighting and dying every single day against the Collective in Pochven for that very reason. Perhaps many of us don’t see them, because we’re focused on valid conflicts elsewhere against different enemies, but their families and loved ones do. So too do those of the citizens on the stolen worlds being subjected to unspeakable horrors against their will.

And if the Arshat transmuter had been reverse-engineered to give the four major powers the tools to undo it’s effects, in order to return the systems to their normal state, those offensives might even have a point. As it stands they have no identifiable objective and continue to be a morbid waste of manpower and materiel. The closest thing -we- have had to an objective since the invasions ceased was the destruction of all infrastructure belonging to traitor capsuleers. To my knowledge we have simply run out of viable targets to strike. This is something which I have pointed out before, only to be accused of “extremely limited strategic thinking”. I don’t know who decided that chucking squadron after squadron through a wormhole without a plan was a suitable way to continue the war but if that is what strategic brilliance looks like I will wear the insult with pride.

@Remilia_Malitia

It is imperative that we reconsider our stance, hopefully seeking out a peaceful resolution to this conflict.

They will not be able to hide from us forever. The conflict will be resolved when the last Triglavian holdouts have been glassed into oblivion.

@Arrendis

organized according to Caldari Navy doctrines and run by Caldari Navy officers.

Not a doctrine I ever saw whilst I served three years as an ADC to a WC in the CN. I do not know why they refitted those ships, or why they ignored my constant pleas to phase out all launcher hulls with the conventional turret hulls, but the only force that was adequately employing anything resembling CN doctrines was EDI, and it took a long time before all doctrines within it were phased out in favour of Nagas, Feroxes and Ospreys.