Terrible idea.
Cult = Bad
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whats terrible about it?
Absolutely! get a room!
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Good idea!
And to keep this thread on track – I asked a friend of mine who will be going to Fanfest if he will donate his blood for this, and he said he might just do that. I do applaud the idea of going outside the digital realm and using another medium to tell the story of EVE. It makes it more ‘real’.
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This is how you get framed for murder, with dna evidence provided. <3
It doesn’t matter.
Grab you life preserver.
This is undoubtably the dumbest idea CCP has ever had.
What happens when the medical professionals who get hired for this screw up? Do you, CCP, want to be responsible for spreading bloodborne pathogens to even a single person, let alone numerous people? I can think of a million different ways this can go badly. A nutjob grabs a loose needle and stabs someone. Needles aren’t properly disposed of or accidentally get reused. Someone takes your pool of collected blood and tosses it onto other people. A CCP employee steals some and later does weird ritualistic crap with the blood. This whole idea is ■■■■■■ from the start.
You know what would be a better idea and would last a lot longer than blood-infused ink? 24K gold-infused ink, written on black paper. Gold never tarnishes, unlike the iron in blood. Not to mention it’s aesthetically beautiful, with the black paper symbolic of space and the gold ink as the stars. It’s perfect for EVE. Instead, CCP has chosen to lower themselves to be nothing but Blood Raiders.
But I don’t expect CCP to change their minds. They’ve already made the announcement and aren’t going to renege on their plans. I want no part in this lunacy. Enjoy the negative optics, CCP.
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WHAT IF THERE IS A ZOMBIE OUTBREAK!!!?!?!?!?!!
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Better not do blood drives then!
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The typical blood drive isn’t done in a convention hall with hundreds of people running around, most of whom are hungover from the night before.
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Typical no. But the american red cross did host drives at Metallica concerts.
Besides a drop of blood will just need a small lancet and prick the finger
The rate of medical error for this is the same as for any other procedure for blood drawing. The errors originate from human behavior not from the environment. For example, a nurse may forget to sterilize the skin prior to perforating it with a needle.
But for this thing they probably won’t even go into a vein to get that one drop of blood. What they likely will do is just prick the fingertip and that’s it. Even if there is contamination it’s limited to the surface tissues. Like when you cut yourself slicing tomatoes – that should be the worst you’re risking with here.
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And it’s done every year at Fanfest, with no incidents.
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Medical error is the issue. A leading cause of accidental death in most developed countries is medical error/malpractice. This is no exception. Bloodborne pathogens are no joke.
The environment certainly is a factor. A crowded convention hall is an uncontrolled environment with significantly more distractions than somewhere like a doctor’s office. Add in lots of dumb people, hungover, doing stupid stuff and the environment becomes more chaotic, increasing error risk.
Finally, bloodborne pathogens don’t just sit on the surface tissue. Once the circulatory system is exposed, even with a small needle prick, the pathogens can get in upon contact. Tomatoes themselves don’t have the potential to give you Hepatitis B, but a distracted nurse holding a contaminated needle or lancet does.
All of this is why CCP’s whole idea is stupid. Too much risk just to put human blood into ink. They can instead use normal ink like non-weirdos use every day. But no, they gotta have “material experimentation”.
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I think you are being a little silly here.
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You should check the rate of patient error.
Which is why the medical professionals usually set up tents for this purpose, or perform the procedures in vans set up for this purpose or something like that.
Actually, this is mostly not the case and sentences like ‘‘pathogens will get in upon contact even if there is a small needle prick’’ is fear-mongering.
Yes, when you break the skin, pathogens will get in, of course. But with something like a prick of a fingertip they mostly end up causing local tissue inflammation. There will be a local anti-inflammatory response that will isolate the invading particles, whether germs, viruses, or whatever. The damage is limited and your body will be able to effectively fight it off before it gets deeper inside the body. Yes, in rare cases even a needle prick can cause more serious damage, if it spreads and when the body is not capable of fighting it off. But to act like that’s the rule is an exaggeration.
By and large most viruses/pathogens people come in contact with only end up causing local inflammation/infection. Even when you breathe in pathogens through your nose, the infection is initially limited to upper airways. The tissues over there try to fight it off and most of the time they succeed with it. Only when the pathogens are especially virulent or when a body’s immune system is compromised, do they end up causing systemic infection (which is very very serious and life-threatening).
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I’ve attended fanfest multiple times, all of which have included a tattoo booth (which I would say carries a greater risk than a quick finger-prick for a drop of blood), and so far the only catastophic outbreak that has come up was during the Kyonoke Inquest in 2017.
And I think Kyonoke is about as likely as some of the scenarios suggested here.
If we put this on a venn diagram, the circle of people who are wringing their hands about this would be fully inside the larger circle of people who are afraid of international travel, anyway, so it seems like a moot point.
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And how many have happened at this particular event? They have done blood drives there all the time. I grew up with a mother with diabetes, the amount of blood ‘drawn’ is the equivalent of what is needed for a blood sugar test (~0.3 microliters) which is a procedure so simple that they let untrained individuals do all the time. You can be careful, but you are just being overly dramatic. According to your logic, blood drives just shouldn’t be done. Yes the environment is an consideration, but as others have pointed out, they tend to be drawing blood in tents or cubicles. Medical professionals do these things at concerts, schools, fanfests, conventions, etc all the time.
This isn’t an experiment, they are using a 1700s technique. This is the opposite of an experiment.
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