Because you didn’t seem to believe the one character to deal with drifters posts above.
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Really? That is not what I said at all and you should be ashamed makingh assumptions…
The other guy repeatedly said “we dealt with them” while in fact it only needs one gunner to deal with them. There is no “we” involved. He is just chest beating.
Now who is making assumptions.
Just because one person is required for any particular death ball doesn’t mean only one person is involved in coming up with the strategy, doing any logistics, or in doing it across all systems in a week.
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it took several of us to figure it out. There was most certainly a large dose of “we” involved.
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It stll needs only one guy to drive back the drifters FFS.
CCP dealt with the original drifter invasions by stopping it 3 days after it started due to server performance issues. Since then, the drifters have only engaged in response to others shooting at them first.
It kind of became a dead story arc until the Trigs arc has revived it, but there was nothing to deal with. They just went passive very quickly.
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oh, they’re back to super-aggressive again. If you are on grid and not tethered, they will nuke you. Pods as well.
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Wrong & Wrong.
There was an entire second round of drifter invasions which went on for weeks, CCP stopped that round because players were making too much isk off it.
And there always have been triggers for drifter aggression which result in people getting shot without shooting first.
And there have been ‘tests’ where CCP spawned Death Ball fleets which pretty much exactly match the composition you are dealing with in Null where they launched straight into reinforcing structures without any shooting first as well, and defense fleets were required to deal with them. Which… Weirdly lasted about as long as a problem as Null ones actually ever were.
So, stop talking about stuff you don’t actually know about, stop trying to make null out to be some kind of poor victim testbed for CCP. If anyone was a test bed for this it was highsec who had to deal with it initially, and had to deal with it without Titans that can kill them in a single AOE DD.
They aren’t the risk Null is making them out to be. It’s that simple. It’s just tears over actually having to deal with something Highsec has already dealt with and has continued to have to deal with in widespread diamond rat form who do attack structures also for months/years. If it’s bad gameplay for Null, it’s bad gameplay for High and all diamond rats should be removed and the AI reverted to the idiot passive AI of missions.
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Highsec is where things like this should be happening. Not nullsec where we all expect large player organizations to compete with other large player organizations over resources and territories.
We want player wars in nullsec not pve ■■■■■■■■. In Highsec if you shoot at each other concord intervenes. You need pve content for there to be a game. In nullsec we want to fight over land and resources.
Each region is seeing over 170 drifter structure attacks a day right now. Was high sec ever like this?
It has already been mentioned. Permanent damage has already been done. Forever enemies like goons and panfam are literally working together rightnow and building relationships. All of nullsec has just blued up to work together to defeat this. And they jave basically declared war on highsec over it.
You guys need to be scared too. It’s bad for you. Were talking trade sanctions, structure reinforcements, blockades, and more burn jita ganking.
You guys will cry when the big bad nullsec boys come stomp your castles. Theres nothing you can do to compete with them.
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I won’t cry.
If Nullsec really wants to burn highsec, they always could do so.
And you know what will happen if they do? CCP will be forced to change the game to stop it.
Just like has happened every other time someone has gotten too far on burning highsec.
Because if you burn highsec you burn the entire game. Just like if you burn any other region of the game to the ground.
This is just Nullbears being salty because they had to put up with a few days of inconvenience.
Because yes, FOB really are on that scale CONSTANTLY FOR MONTHS. Sure FOB rats don’t have the same firepower, but neither does highsec have the firepower of null, so relatively it’s very similar. There are 7 FOB within 5 jumps of me right now. Now multiply that across highsec. They spawn roaming fleets, they spawn miners who then spawn response fleets the second they warp into you, because you have bad standings because of the rats who auto attack you in belts that can’t be avoided.
So yeah. again, it’s Null throwing a tantrum that they have to put up with something they repeatadly told highsec to suck it because it was good for the game. And again, in bold this time, IF IT IS BAD FOR THE GAME FOR NULLSEC, IT IS BAD FOR THE GAME FOR HIGHSEC.
You just can’t have it both ways with regards to NPC’s which force PvE on you. Because PvP can be forced on you in highsec. If you really insist that PvE can’t be forced on you in null but you can earn money however you want, then by the very same logic, PvP can’t be forced on people in highsec, but they should still be able to earn money however they want.
Yeah…
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High sec has npc stations dude. Generally invincible, giant fleets of npc battleships, that insta lock and are each equipped with 200k scrams and a damn DD cant evict you from your home and cause all your stuff to go into asset safety.
It’s not wrong.
On 27 August 2015, CCP suspended the main Drifter invasion in the Defence of the Throne story:
They had spent most of 2015 building a really interesting, epic story around the Drifters, from Caroline’s star through to the planned massive invasion of highsec:
From there, the whole story basically crippled itself. It didn’t have the invasion aspect that was planned and the drifters became passive. Players may have milked them for ISK, but CCP had already dealt with the story and hugely idsappointed a number of people in the community, when the whole momentum went out of the story and it didn’t recover.
It’s good to see it coming back.
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He doesn’t even understand what you are talking about. You’re talking about the whole point of EVE and he’s talking about ratting and trying to equate the two…
Just ignore…
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I wasn’t aware Nullsec considered 35 BS & 35 cruisers to be a giant fleet. Especially when the BS have under 100k EHP
I’m sure I’ve seen them bragging about throwing entire 256 person fleets of caps around. And bringing thousands of people to a fight.
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No we don’t consider it a giant fleet but in Delve fleets consist of 200-300 ships with mostly BS that have titan doomsday weapon. And one more correction doomsday weapons are no longer AOE since couple of years they are single target.
You’re right the fleets aren’t giant. Anything to say about the other points?
Sure, we have NPC stations. That doesn’t mean squat if you can’t undock and do any activity in the system because of the FOB. Which is what Null has been complaining about.
There are literally people saying a single pilot can deal with a fleet.
There are also literally people like the one right above you & you with regards to ‘Invincible’ who are posting outright lies on this.
It’s actually a 500km scram btw, yet again another thing highsec had to test and deal with. And be glad you aren’t dealing with the initial DD that highsec had to deal with which was infinite tracking as well so there was no chance at all of avoiding it in a small ship.
So sure. you can’t be evicted from an entire system in highsec, but you can be evicted from all your own upwell structures, and your stuff placed in asset safety as a result. And that’s the only point you made in that last post you want me to reply to that has anything of note to it, and that’s a pretty weak point to try and say that highsec deserves to have the treatment that you are busy claiming is unacceptable for null to have.
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The main point being we want and expect nullsec to be fighting wars with each other not blueing up to fight off OP npcs.
What is your argument to that? Nullsec shouldent be about pvp any more?
You can fight wars all you want. Nothing about this is forcing you to do so.
People have literally stated a bunch of ways a single pilot can deal with a drifter ball. If a single pilot can deal with them they sure aren’t OP.
If having to split a single pilot off to kill each drifter fleet is that crippling… Yeah I’ve got no words for you in that case.
This is nothing about you not being able to PvP anymore, this is about you CHOOSING to use drifters as an excuse to blue up and go bash highsec to blackmail CCP.
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