They don’t get gifted. PL or whoever wants them have to take them by playing the game and destroying their enemies, something your ilk seems to be incapable of, hence you cry for CCPs help. If you can’t defend it you don’t deserve it. HTFU
Also how much can PL and the imperium possibly hold at the same time. It’s not like they have infinite resources and people.
I feel really embarassed for your lack of spine right now. Only a carebear would ask CCP to change the rules in his favour so he could keep his stuff without defending it.
Looks like this is the end of the line for CVA. Should have happened years ago. I’m glad they take all your stuff.
For only 10mil ISK you can come mine in highsec if you need a new home. Lol
Heh… Maybe you misunderstood something. Whoever will came in 2019, 2020 … to destroy their enemies, to play the game and to have fun, will not get addition bonus cookies - Faction Fortizars, dozens of them. Which can be unanchored or dropped into hostile SoV for free also, based on new SoV Meta.
I don’t cry for anything. I’m not in any Alliance even. I’m just pointing to: sky is blue, grass is green, ice is cold; while somebody is trying to convince me in vice versa by hiding his unfair deeds. Because these deeds will not make EVE great. That’s all.
Maybe you’ll understand, that the issues isn’t in take!, get!, set!, got!, have!, acquire!, play!, fun!, but how it is projected on the EVE community. BTW, EVE community isn’t only those people presented at Fanfest: 50% Goonswarm, 30% TEST, 10% MC/NC/PL and 10% - others.
I feel embarrassed for everyone who runs crying to CCP for changes to game mechanics in his/her favour. You must know this as I felt embarrassed for you many times Sarah.
Wreck HP was buffed because nullsec players one-shot Capital wrecks to deny the winner of the fight the loot which is often quite valuable officer mods. This is well know, even by you. But it is not atypical for an ag to ignore the truth so they can play the victim card and feel sorry for themselves. In reality it does not excuse the constant everyday failing tough.
Even CCP realized afterwards how badly they had been played. As always they weren’t man enough to admit that they made a mistake and revert it but instead buffed freighter HP in return, supposedly because - and I quote CCP Fozzie - “we like to pair buff and nerfs to suicide ganking to keep things in balance”. As many of you have rightly pointed out, this is of course total nonsense and indeed this change to make up for the wreck HP buff was completely laughable.
But keep pretending this was all about all the poor titan wrecks.
Those changes have been over years. The idea that they were aimed specifically at CVA/Providence just comes of as some serious tinfoil. Especially since it all hinges on a player group taking action after years of cunning planning.
I think it is rather unhealthy to be salty about such a little game change for all this years. You can still gank the wrecks btw, it just takes more than a 1mil Trasher to do it.
The effect on wrecks that got ganked was a side effect. The whole purpose of the patch was as I stated for Super and large structure wrecks. Ganking is an extremely rare activity and almost no one is doing it. CCP does not care at all what highsec gankers want or do or if they even exist, we are a really tiny minority. Why should they implement something like this for a tiny minority when there is an actual problem to solve that so many other people complain about.
Again, you intentionally try to play the victim card so you can feel sorry for yourself. Ganking got hit by far far more nerfs over the years and we are still here and kill stuff. Adapt or die.
Doesn’t this apply to all player groups? What makes CVA so susceptible and why should you guys get special exemptions?
In other words CVA was becoming less and less viable. Despite other groups being able to retain sov holdings. Hmmm…could it be that these other groups adapted to changes whereas CVA didn’t?
Why can’t you take them back while the are still outposts?
Hahaha. No. It is providing a heck of an incentive.
What? You are suggesting that there is a special rule against you and that CCP is in collusion with a player alliance?
I seem to recall a big battle in Cloud Ring, another crap region, where a Keepstar was successfully defended. Against a very large hostile force. Hmmmmm.
Seems to me the issue is CVA. An alliance/coalition that has become ossified and sclerotic and has not moved with mechanics changes. In EVE that means death.
Gifted how? Did these alliances not form fleets? Did CVA not put up a defense? Are we not talking about hundreds if not thousands of man hours. Moving capitals and supers is not a trivial task in EVE these days. Did @CCP_Falcon just habd over these outposts via Dev fiat?
Yes there was an incentive, but that doesn’t negate effort. Did CVA prepare for this? Did the work on building a counter veiling super fleet? Did the work out any sort of mutual defense agreements with surrounding groups? Did they tell members to get ready to defend their ■■■■ when this day would come? Build up wallets, resources, ships, etc. to meet this challenge.
And don’t get me wrong CVA has been a longtime institution in game. Seeing it die would be unfortunate. But that is what happens in systems like EVE. We see the same thing in the RL economy. Business come and go. When Borders shut down I thought it was unfortunate. I liked browsing for books there. I bought books there. But they didn’t (or couldn’t) adapt to the changes in the economy and they died. Alot of malls are losing their anchor stores to online shopping. What are mall owners going to do? You either turn a profit and stay or incur losses and die. So if CVA has a culture that either won’t or can’t adapt…well it may very well have to die.
We don’t have a CSM and we don’t make threads on the forums to ask for favours my dear. We are not goonswarm and I don’t care what they do or not at all.
On the other hand there is like at least once a week one from some ag who cries about bumping or ganking in general and tries to get a change in his favour. I bet if we go into the archives we will even find some of you.
So why would you even bring up this topic? This is getting even more embarassing for you.
Well, firstly, your insulting antagonizing attitude is towards others that have a comment that goes against the grain of what you want shows me a lot of how you think. Firstly i also added to my comment that outposts being converted to faction citadels should not allowed to be un-anchored. But to move forward and so called “change code” then so be it, change to faction citadels, but those ones should not be un-anchorable. You simply said that, that was a bad idea as well, which also shows me that you simply don’t agree and its simple, its because it goes against the grain of what you and the rest of the powerbloc leaderships want. At the end of the day, preventing them from being un-anchored is a great idea. They still convert to citadels, they become destructible, but you cannot un-anchor them. That was the update to my thoughts. But it seems you cannot agree because its not what you want. Your question about my life shows me that you are exactly who i stated you are. Everything your way of the high way attitude. No matter how much others have an opinion, you will argue with them till they agree with you. Unlike you, if people want to disagree, fine, but just because they don’t like the idea, no need for insulting me, of course retaliation will ensue. And if you say you would not retaliate, your lying. It a very normal part of being human. Unlike you, i don’t force my opinion on others, or try to make it look innocent and still in a way force it on others, and to deny it means your lying.
I see. It’s hard to explain, but the issue isn’t in archaic activity - to jump with truncheon through gates. The issue is in:
What is done?
When?
How?
By whom?
How this will determine the future?
CVA lost a lot, like CO2 and DRF also. I talking not about CVA only! Yes, PL tried hard to farm Providence, no doubt, I saw. It’s strange to build and drop so many structures, while PL was staged in Curse, while the Outpost changes were announced.
Among these issues, the main one is favoritism in EVE. For example, let me point to few very unnoticed events already happened last year, by proving my posts aren’t some kind of propaganda vs PanFam. Many players from NC were angry when Seleene gifted that PopeStar Keepstar to Max. Max is a good guy, no doubt, but it’s hard to predict how that Keepstar will play it’s role vs PanFam further. In this case, I agree with NC reaction. The Culture sold Fountain to the Imperium. During a TalkingInStations stream last month, Matterall said or asked with some kind of disappointment: “Why Culture didn’t offered a Fountain sale to us? We could buy that.” I can agree with Matterall and I was surprised that nobody in NC didn’t know about that deal. How many Outposts NC should been gain from Fountain? At least no auctions were announced. Isn’t some kind of favoritism here from Culture side?. BTW, the Culture leader is in PL now, if I’m not wrong, and Materall maybe thinking that ‘the clouds are gathering’.
EVE isn’t a typical game, a MOBA, and EVE isn’t a gambling. EVE is something between a trivial game and gambling. With this monetization and PLEX there is enough real money invested in this game by completely different people. Any serious game have its set or paradigm of unchanged primordial rules. These unchanged rules makes any game a serious game. I can write about many examples, but I’ll point to the fresh one - “John Wick” a movie. The mercenaries in that movie haven’t rules except few, compared to other people.
Among them, “Nobody dares to kill at the Continental!”