The only SKINs that are valuable in those loot boxes are not, in fact, bound to character, but they drop to hangar and can be traded on the market and on contracts. It’s just some cheap useless SKINs that appear to be inject-only.
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Hilmar is doing a great job!
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but it complies with the legal loopholes of norway or wherever this game is based and usa….thats all that matters, all the other countries are far away and they dont matter, unless they decide to ban eve online of course in which case ccp might care.
besides most countries dont give a cap anyway…..they got bigger fish to fry and more problems then to care if hundreds of games out there has lootboxes or not.
except maybe for the eu.
EU customers are the majority of EVE’s player base though. The game should follow EU laws for it’s longevity, I just don’t see this as a violation.
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except they have to abide by a countries rules to keep the game in that country. EU’s recent laws changing how prices are displayed caught up to EVE
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I played Neverwinter D&D years ago. They dropped free loot boxes and sold the keys to open them. This was their solution to circumvent the laws. The loot box in that offer is for buying another item for $10. So they are doing the same thing, not directly selling the loot box.
One of the many reasons I stopped playing Neverwinter Online, was the massive amounts of loot boxes and coupons that drop by killing monsters. To me these were junk drops. I would have to toss them or my inventory would get full. I imagine the game hasn’t changed much since I left, but I do miss the game it was prior to the changes made after 2018.
Have fun!
I bought PLEX yesterday and got a Nestor skin which I then sold in Jita. So some skins at least can be sold.
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Bad timing one day before the PLEX sale. I feel for you… 
There’s always one sale or another. Buy PLEX during the PLEX sale and you lose out on the MCT sale for buying omega time directly next week etc.
Just think of the sale price as the real price and everything else as gouging impatient people.
If this is gambling then there will be ALOT of companies who will face fines for “gambling”. As others have said giving a ‘freebie’ without increasing the price when you buy a regularly priced item is NOT gambling, that’s regardless of wheater the ‘freebie’ is a random gift or a fixed item.
To clarify digital gamekey sellers like Fanatic have been doing this for ages by offering a random free gamekey when you buy games for a certain amount at their store. I hate gambling and lootboxes but this is NOT a lootbox in my opinion.
It is for those who care about those YC121 SKINs.
CCP is selling loot boxes?? Wow, crazy… it’s almost like they’re a business. The kind that likes money. Shocking, I know. Next you’ll tell me water is wet and gankers shoot ships.
Look, if you expect a studio running a 20-year-old niche MMO to not look for new revenue streams, that’s adorable. Truly. Should we also ask them to run their servers on hugs and good vibes?
Are loot boxes controversial? Sure. Are they surprising? Only if you’ve just logged in for the first time since 2008. For the rest of us, it’s just another Monday in New Eden capitalism
The controversy was started, several years ago, when one of the European countries passed a law against online sales of loot boxes. Most games continued business as usual, most did some legal jury rigging to avoid the exact letter of the law. As I stated above, this one seems to be selling you “anything” except the “free” loot box for $10.
As long as the loot boxes don’t start dropping from every 3rd ship I blow up, I am good.
@Angel_Van_Death ah yes, but tell us how you really feel about the man.
Have fun!
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I hope CCP will take out the concept of loot boxes soon and completely. Currently also Germany is planning to pass new legislation that if a game contains buyable lootboxes in any form, be it the primary product or a gift with the buyable product, the game has to enforce that the players have a minimum age of 18 years to play.
I am a grown up person and i just don’t want to participate in this BS of age verification everywhere. My main character was created 2005, that should be enough age verification.
Also it would make EVE illegal to play under the age of 18, even with parents consent. Germany also wants to suggest the legislation to the EU and to harmonize it with Belgiums and the Netherlands in requiring age verification then EU wide and possible more regulation beyond that.
Meh, I checked all 24 skins, done some math, and the average price I went through to the End was
something around 4 Mil in average… now you’re telling me there’s a 0.001% chance of getting an Odysseus rare SKIN that “could” sell for 11Bil???
I can make any kind of SKIN I wish with the SKINR editor so no SKIN is worth to me more than 2-3 Bil Isk… let alone 11 Bil…
The average is still 4 Mil and loot box or not it’s just unappealing to me…
Also most SKIN are some variation of grey-brownish color so they should fire
their SKINR Design editor and hire me.
Unless they want to pay me with a fixed percentage on the sales of the Item and that sum
do not exceeds 1000 Eurs I should be ok with the EU customs…
Belgium Idk, Italy they are blindfolded to everything that requires a monitor…
This is actually an interesting point to make. Has it been confirmed that Odysseus SKINs drop from those boxes?
I would think that since CCP configured the crate before there were Odysseus SKINs, the latter items are not in it. The crate still says 4.16% chance to get any single SKIN. With Odysseus SKINs added the correct % would have to be 3.13% (not 0.001%) per individual SKIN. Not a single Odysseus SKIN has made it on the market, so my guess is they are not in those crates.
But if those crates do drop Odysseus SKINs then that would interesting. I would also expect a price increase for those crates, but the reverse is currently true.
I’d like to see that math. Even if you used buy order prices to arrive at your average there is no way to get the answer at 4m in Jita (where the SKIN market is) since only 2 SKINs have buy orders listed below 4m. The majority are way above 4m.
The average sale price for the 24 SoE ship SKINs that include hulls Astero, Stratios, and Nestor is 676.2m.
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I was going just on memory, but I think I factored in the price for the crates itself and added some
magical variables in pure math, that is not conveyable with numbers…
that is… what are the odds of getting a Nestor SKIN?
Re.run the entire thing with the lesser amount as the 99%…
THEN factor in the number of actual sales orders for said skin
then divide for the price of the crate.
4mil was generous…
I think I prefer the ‘math with numbers’ version for accuracy over the ‘magical variables that is not conveyable with numbers’.
Math doesn’t really work that way where you magically grab numbers out of your