you sit there for x minutes
the problem is
amarr is lvl 1 so we get 1/2 of minimum LP or 500k per minute
minmatar is lvl 5 so they win like 3,5 milion per minute in a NOVICE( that mean can be done in a 2 million merlin ) … 10 minutes 32 million
That is why I was against FW right from the start: the incentive to pvp is… the pvp. CCP making it so that FW is about cashing in bazillions in LP is all wrong.
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like i said there is ways to change
wen things were working i use to lose 3 BILIONS in ships per month
we need to get money
but the system is rotten
anyway the problem got worst because a lot of null cry babies left null because of rorqual nerf and formed a null copy in low
and now with the mineral changes it was the nail in the coffin
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WE NEED CHANGES NOW
so us weirdoes can continue to do faction warfare making MAX 1.4 million/m (IN LP)/and no less than 1 million/m… for a novice
that way the even distribution of players and relative low pay will eliminate some of the farmers
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you mean a very boring vestiges that keep hunting day miner and new player because…error 404 reason not found
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Sounds to me like they need to make it so that capturing a plex commits you to the process for X amount of minutes. Kind of like lighting a cyno, but with some modifications, like being able to move and shoot normally to be able to defend yourself, but you not being able to warp out of the plex once you start capturing it.
Make it use an expensive module too, so that there’s some money on the line as well, and people can’t get around the risk by using disposable ships.
But every once in a while, we get a rage post from someone like you, and we know that it’s all worth it.
not good because blob vs 1
trust me , in my system a veteran in the losing team and a lp farmer in the wining team win make close to the same
the teams will have close to the same number of people and we will have pew pew land again
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let me explain one more thing that you are missing
there is OPLEX offensive plex , has to be done in the enemy territory
so you have to sit there and the enemy kill you
THAT give good lp
and DPLLEX
you do in your territory
THE LP IS ■■■■
but is safe
the problem is , wen there is no ENEMY in the ENEMY territory because 90% are farming the wining side
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The “1” should bring escorts.
Maybe change the system so that different types of plexes allow different numbers of people inside, but all pay out roughly the same amount per person.
So a “solo” plex would only allow 2 people inside (1 from each side of the conflict) and would pay out X amount of ISK, while the biggest plex would allow 100 people inside (50 from each side of the conflict) and would pay out 50X amount of ISK split among the participants. In the latter case, a group could choose to bring fewer people but still get the same payout, at the risk of not being able to have an even fight from a defensive fleet.
Numbers are just examples, but you get the idea.
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no
nothing similar to intel Chanel, forming fleets or null sec modus operandi is good
that is the status quo now
yeah i thought about it, but its to comPLEX badum tss
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Then you wonder why it attracts others?
My suggestion: remove all rewards, then only those who have fun remain.
But I suspect there will be no one there.
Anyway, thanks for the info, I’ve already thought about what you could do while watching movies, seems to be possible, depending on which faction has higher level, to park there an alpha on the second screen.
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yah i know
some other ■■■■ was quicker than you
your suggestion is ■■■■
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You can’t do that. The people fighting need an income stream too.
My idea, which I mentioned a few weeks ago, was to just flat-out tax all high-sec resident income unless they’re enrolled in FW, and pay out that tax money as dividends to FW participants.
Then I got like a dozen death threats for posting that.
look this is my fw base ATM
this is my wallet
i dont care I’m a eve veteran i can make money other ways
BTW i played amarr TIER 1 FW before , i don’t care
making low money… no problem
the problem is that in the last months there is close to NO FIGHTS
i roam with my ships , making ■■■■ money but NO ENEMY COME , some times 5 minmatar enter the system and bail
most in jackdaw and dramiels … its getting worst and worst
amarr FW was healthy till like mid last year but people dont believe me 
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I think one of the problem here is the mindset people have . Some time ago ~ 2008 - 2010 , I used to go and PvP in a frigate in systems like Amamake. I went there just for the explosions and fun . I went there to fight until I lose my ship , then reship and come back for more. There were a lot like me that did just the same thing , no one was going there to print ISK , everyone was there for the fun fights and there were a lot of them back then.
If for some, the only goal in this game is to print ISK , then idk why are they still playing this game…
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yes i agree
but like i said people used to do that till last year
the catalyst to amarr fw fall was the problems in null and I’m pretty sure about that
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pluss the horrible invasion new content but I’m here to build not to destroy 
CCP does not give a ■■■■ about the players, all they care about is selling plex and skill injectors.
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There are people in here who are so anti-carebear you’d think their brains were broken suddenly using carebear arguments when it comes to stuff THEY want to be doing.
What’s up with that?
Mr Epeen 
Because this is literally the best game on the market (that’s not a casual cell phone game) for feeding the grinder mentality. Even WoW, a game that’s ostensibly PvE-focused, has considerably less emphasis on resource grinding, and has a bigger proportion of players willingly fighting each other.
Over the past ten years, EVE has become the de facto number one multiplayer game for anyone who wants to generate fake wealth (unless they RMT, in which case the wealth is very much real).
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this is the carebear farming the plexes
i extended on the payment system but the uncatchable OP ship part is very important to
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It might be , but it’s just not how it works for me . My purpose has always been to convert ISK into fun, and for me fun is combat PvP. I want adrenaline , not to fall asleep at the PC due to some PvE constant activity…
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Blowing ■■■■ up gets old after a few hours but mining in a belt for 10 hours is just as much fun for me as it is for you to blow up defenseless ships. PVE and PVP combat in EVE sucks and is boring as all ■■■■. I only play EVE for the mining and building, everything else is the worst part of the game. Click on a ship and watch. Oyes, i forgot you get to turn mods on and off for the excitement. Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, and even No Mans sky blows EVE ship on ship combat out the water. The only thing cool about EVE anymore is the mining and building. its an old game that CCP is milking the player base for real life money during a pandemic. If you hate bots but buy plex and skill injectors that you are no better than the bots.
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