CCP screws everyone but big nullsec cartels

Which drives even more people into CFC. Good work.

That will just increase the number of bots to watch gates. And that in particular in CFC space because they already use all sorts of tools to use all possible mechanical angles. Good work.

Funnily enough, that will help Delve as well way more than any other region because a lot of stuff dies there on a daily basis. Not nearly enough for their industrial output, but still more than in most other null sec regions. Good work there as well.

Great work, Nana, you made CFC even stronger with your 3 suggestions.

I see two stances on this, that it will be end of goons as Tackos wrote, or it will make them stronger like you posted, by using bots and nolifing more.

Lets try it and see what will happen.

You are out of order my friend :crazy_face:

If you believe his silver-tongue, I can’t help you. There is nothing “to see what happens”. My point number 1 is proven by the sheer size of CFC already, their massive growth after WWB and the continued growth with corps and groups that do not want to take on risks on their own and instead seek shelter under an already established huge group. Number 2 is just a logical conclusion from current bot developments (mostly the relic site bots with their active blacklists checking local for threats). Number 3 is just the current reality with Delve’s 1.7T destroyed assets in the last month, which is more than Fade and Pure Blind combined, where wars rage (excluding Tenerifis’ UALX anomaly).

Yep, my ass will be in Goons when that happens.

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This is mitigated by more dangerous ratting in my scenario and risk of losing everything.

Making caps killing weapons, superbombers. Nerfing caps. Removal of bounties from null, replacing with tags you have to sell in high sec for ISK. Balance of anomalies spawning so the best farming system is always the most caps died in. And then watch how people move to Delve to rip it apart. To farm goons.

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Not over time, but with people experience. It’s a normal behaviour to tweak the balance in your favor once you know how it works.

Bots are illegal.

My Eve client is launched, i’m docked but i’m afk: bot or no bot? i’m undocked and cloaked: bot or no bot?

Neither are bots as long as they dont send commands to server by automation without human input involved in each individual command.

:rofl: Yeah, sure they are. :smiley:

Its not about one petite change to null, its about changing with a direction that discourages forming current situation forever. Its about making Null a scevenging grounds where nobody wins and everyone is at war, watching the other one with hunger in eyes. Its about launching wars from safety of high sec and proliferation of war into high sec.

I don’t see how you can achieve this unless you tax the biggest alliances to death.

These are all thing that CFC will use to a lot greater effect to destroy other groups in EVE than other groups will be able to use them against CFC.
Where most caps die? So, building cheap Chimeras or freighters, kill them with your buddies, farm insurance and you improve ratting in Delve? And for the rest of the time the system is under the super cap umbrella. Good idea. People already farm Delve for kills, that is why they have 1.7T destroyed assets last month. It is not enough and your suggestions will not change that because CFC already welps lots of high value targets and still not more people stage in NPC Delve.

We had that in the past. Structures killed that with a beheading.

I also suggested removing insurance from null loses. Not here, some time ago. You see there is a lot to change.

Writing about caps I had in mind all capitals, by that I mean titans and supercapitals.

They will start farming them for loot. Taking everything from them. Destroying whole fleets of titans with bombing runs that would deal massive amount of damage to those ships.

The ratting, it would need connection to high sec. So the groups launching from it would be like real guerilla, having support for constant harassment.

Null just needs a total overhaul. CCP lost a lot of time and future will look bleak when there is no juicy target to fight there. Goons have to be sacrificed to the Bob, with all their rorquals, citadels, titans and everything. Then when war is over, CCP can fatten some other null entity if need arises, and the cycle will repeat.

You mistakenly used word “null” instead of “wormholes”. It’s wormholes when asset safety is removed.
High-sec, low-sec, null-sec - all of them have it.

Because in null your stuff was left in an outpost you can’t dock at in wormhole your sma got blown up and you still lost all your stuff so they decided to keep assets security same as it always was

Remove all asset safety, everywhere.

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I’m very much for this. Along with all the other stuff that was posted above that will unfortunately never happen such as super anti-cap bombs launched from stealth bombers etc.

If such a thing were come to pass it would be a total war, absolutely glorious. I might even get back out to NS again. But I won’t, at least not to live there for prolonged periods, unless I see some serious anti-botting and anti-cap mechanics in this game. Which unfortunately will never happen due to CCPs fear of goons and alike.

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