Well, my decision was also caused by “era of scarcity” thing. I will wait till “new economic equilibrium” appears in the game to even think about returning.
Anyway best wishes to folks who lost their big stuff today, In current mining realities those toys are almost irrecoverable in na short run but I am sure you can cope with that.
So do we have any communication from CCP ? From my point of view, and I’m not part of this war, this is terrible for the game reputation. I heard / saw log with “population cap”, people that are dying but reappearing or still in their home system how this is even possible ?
That smells a lot. CCP what happened ?
My sentiments exactly!
Server was asked to load said titan, several calls get created, like calculate position on grid, load loadout, calculate stats of fully fitted ship, calculate player bonus, and finally finished loading ship. Some of these calls got deleted instead of delayed. ‘finished loading ship’ got called with a partial loaded ship as some of the calls got deleted. So we see all those killmails with dead titans only suffering from 1 million hp damage.
Exactly this. CCP has pushed EVE farther and farther away from ‘sandbox’ and consistently towards “move to Null and join a blob”. The recent economic changes are just another push in this direction. And players keep sending them subs to be part of that, so there’s no real reason for CCP not to do it.
Way too simplistic. Any of the alliances could simply fill a system themselves with whatever numbers needed, and then no one else could get in. They either need to go with that Cloud combat technology they were testing (although they stated this was not something in actual development for EVE battles at this time), or they need to get creative. It’s not something “easily” fixed.
They could go with something like a Mechwarrior “batchall” where both sides bid the forces they will put into battle against some sort of limiting factor, or they alter the game mechanics so that battles become self-limiting in size based on fleet composition per side. Or whatever other mechanic. But it definitely won’t be easy.
I was thinking this very thing.
Though the thing that caused Clan society to develop that was extreme scarcity.
Sure it’s going to be an impossible task to keep up. They have never been ahead of the curve as once we see that the server can handle 6500 players we think it can handle more…which it can’t.
I await an official CCP announcement on this, but as a company I feel they are weighing up on two options: 1: Keeping Titan’s dead hope for people to stay in the game and hopefully buy PLEX to replace their losses, whilst potentially making those ‘Ghost Titan’s’ also dead. Blaming it on the players for not keeping to the limits of the server in the press.
2: Reimbursing losses where the server couldn’t cope and hopefully retain their membership and hope for a better managed fight that they can market again in the near future.
Whatever it is, someone will complain. Do they want to upset their current membership in Imperium who were forming in system so struck lucky with server performance and be slated in the media for not being able to handle the required server load of the membership or upset their membership in PAPI and be slated in the media for having a mechanic that means you don’t have to risk assets or have skill you just have to overload the server first to win.
Only time will tell.
What I am taking from this is that Goons are now unevictable as the servers can’t cope with anyone who forms up a large enough fleet to evict them.
Can I interest anyone in this new area of space called pochven?
Delays also happen in high sec all over the place with almost no population, so no excuse … high population bla…simply not able to have servers deliver any kind of performance, disqualifies CCP from being a serious company worth getting paid.
This doesn’t work in a sandbox. It works in other games because they are instanced anyway, or have multiple servers. The number of players must not be a considered value in the solution.
My proposal, make simulation not only time delayed but also blurry in any other dimension, by grouping ships together and calculate more coarse grained. The perihelion could be each fleet is one technical “ship”. Like the fighter mechanic.
They did and it’s exactly why it was a turkey shoot, almost all of the PAPI fleet was denied entry due to the pop cap (Goons alone used most of the cap). What they need is a cap per side.
A cap per side would be impossible to manage and otherwise easy to abuse. How would you know who is on what side?
You can’t define a side in a sandbox automatically. Population caps won’t work to limit load.
Your first point is incorrect, in that number of players is probably the key factor that needs to be controlled.
The second point is valid and useful, in that reducing huge fine-grained fleets to workable “chunks” can improve processing time. CCP has already stated they’ve made some graphics, rendering and weapons changes to assist with this. The problem with that is unless you get drastic with it, you’re more likely to see a 10-20% improvement from this sort of change than an order of magnitude improvement, and that’s what they need.
It would also require a massive change in game mechanics, which might be interesting, but would more likely be a disaster given the implementation history of CCP’s coding teams. Something like a “Fleet A is dishing out XXXX damage, receiving YYY damage, and logi’ing ZZZ damage. So let’s apply XXXX damage to Fleet B, then apply YYY-ZZZ damage to fleet A randomly in chunks of 1-5%, and see what pops”.
Yeah fair points clearly not going to happen.
Perhaps some kind of design where you ref a structure in 1 system and the structures in the surrounding systems connected to it become vulnerable at the same time. If we can’t fight in a single system perhaps try to spread the war over an ever-moving front line?
Anything to get away from this need to have 11.5k players in a system (which is what the total Imperium and PAPI fleets amounted to last night)
The “era of scarcity” began two years ago. There’s some content scarcity also. As I remember, there aren’t anymore many interesting players and groups in the game.
what i am hearing in the aftermath is that the general dissatisfaction with all of the recent changes was diverting people to the war effort instead of ratting and mining. the war effort is now perceived as dead. CCP needs to fix something fast or the account bleeding will become arterial flow.
A solution would be better than a baseless, gratuitous accusation. It’s not because someone “lost” that the system was “rigged”.
Both sides thought they would/could have won if the battle would have taken place under the right conditions. Ask Asher, ask Vily, and compare their answers. Pull up the Talking in Stations stream from last night, both were interviewed by Matterall.
But that’s the point, how do you want to control that?
I see only one drastic way with the ESI change, so big anonymous groups will automatically fail after some time due to limitation of trust. Managing groups without trust is possible but less efficient.
I mean exactly that. In a WoW BG you can log in 40 Horde and 40 Alliance players per encounteronly. You know, my post was very simplified in description. The mechanic can be developed in many different ways.
