Not coping at all
Go read the patch notes for previous events and you’ll see the same pattern, i’ll even do the first one for you
Crimson harvest, they increased the spawn rates and added more sites to increase drops on the 28th of october
So yeah, your criticism doesn’t mean much when they have established a pattern of doing exactly this
Crimson harvest has been running since 2016
Winter nexus has been running since 2020
What year do you think it is?
Go read the patch notes for previous events and you’ll see the same pattern, i’ll even do the first one for you
Fixed an issue where Biocybernetic sites didn’t despawn correctly after the boss appeared, even if no players were present.
Fixed an issue where Formidable Orthrus NPCs could remain on Biocybernetic Incident sites after completion.
Class 1 & 2 Biocybernetic Incident sites have been rebalanced.
Increased the spawn frequency of Automated Extraction Shuttles on all Biocybernetic sites.
Difficulty adjusted for standard hacking sites to improve accessibility across different space types.
Removed celestial beacon visibility from the new escalation sites so they no longer appear on overview to other players.
Point me to the part in those patch notes where they clearly state they have essentially doubled the drops from the sites, like this Winter nexus. No, increasing the site spawn rate doesn’t count.
Also, point me to previous years where they have extended the event track.
Thank you.
Yes, point me to the patch notes where they’ve increased the event track in 2016 or 2020. I’ll wait.
Never said they extended the old ones, what seems to be the case here is a miscommunication, because from reading your post i inferred you were talking about how long the events had been running
And yes the original ones were not extended, mainly on account of them lasting about half the time
And yes, increasing the spawn rate by default also increases the drop rate of the event itself, thats just simple math
No, it really doesn’t unless the spawn rate is abysmally low to begin with.
It takes a set amount of time to do a site, spawn rate doesn’t speed up that process, and it’s largely up to player choice and skill whether they can seek the sites fast. So unless the spawn rates are abysmally low, the isk per hour isn’t increased by increasing the spawn rates. At best, the improvement is marginal.
Unless you’re grinding sites and have zero downtime then yes, the spawn rate increase means you’re getting more loot compared to before as more sites are spawning within the same timeframe as you didn’t have access to the same number of sites, and even then its still a net drop rate increase for the event even if its not personally affecting you, even if you are not farming those sites it means they are available for more people to run than before, ergo net increase in loot being dropped
We’re not talking about a “net drop rate increase” here, we’re talking about people’s personal experience and value per hour with the events.
And like I said, unless the spawn rates are abysmally low, the improvement is MARGINAL. I didn’t say zero, I said MARGINAL.
But that’s not even close to being double - which is the number CCP increased the drops by in certain sites in this Winter nexus.
Also, the event still sucks even after the buffs. I just grinded the rest of the event track now. It took me about 1-1,5h. That included a short break though. I made 45 mil in stormhive shards and less than 30 mil in bounties. For the whole event, I’ve accumulated 218 mil (-taxes) in stormhive shards and a similar amount in bounties. Top that off with various trash items, like boosters, skins and skinner design elements, and we can arrive at a conservative 500-600 mil in total. Considering it took me like 8h to do the whole event track, that translates to a whopping 75 mil per hour at best. And part of that is AFTER the buffs, so the original number would be even lower.
Considering you can make like 60-100 mil an hour just doing L4’s (without even doing burners), that’s pretty trash. And these numbers are on maxed skills and a relatively blingy fit that runs the sites very fast - on these skill & isk levels I could be doing content that vastly outpaces the isk/h of this event. Yes, even in hisec.
The only decent thing about this event is the event track.
So why have an event that reduces your income?
For fun? For change? For variety? This game isn’t about isk/hour. A lot of players with that approach have a bad time in the game, and from the looks of it you seem to be among them.
I hunted some LADs with a friend at some point during the event, because he needed the clarifiers. I gave all my own clarifiers I got to him. Didn’t charge him a single isk. Made 0 isk during that hunt. Do I care I made 0 isk? No. Should I have gone and done something more profitable instead of spending time with a buddy? No.
You think sitting inside a single room beyond an acceleration gate, not moving, having an auto-targeter on and clicking F1 is “fun” or “changes” what you can already do in EVE?
This is an equivocation fallacy. You’re describing an activity done together with a friend versus a solo activity where the main point is isk generation.
Though, even in your case the point was making isk. It just wasn’t YOU making the isk, it was your friend. You were there to elevate the experience for him, and thus it all spurred from the need to improve the dullness of the actual activity.
It wasn’t hunting the LADs that made it good, it was doing it with a friend. Thus it’s irrelevant what the activity was, because it wasn’t the main point.
I’m not criticizing doing things with friends in this thread, I’m criticizing the specific activities this event offers.
I’ve never done that so I’m the wrong person to ask. But I hear some guys like it.
It was an activity done during the event provided only by the event. Yeah, I found a way to make it more fun for myself. And I’m not the one on the forums complaining how the event sucked.
I can’t speak for my friend, why he needed the clarifiers and whether it was to make isk or not. You have to ask him. But I was there not making any isk. Not intending to make isk. Ergo there was no such point in it in my case.
CCP is not gonna pay for a stripper and send him/her to your house to mix things up for your enjoyment. This is a video game with a very predictable array of activities one can expect from it when logging on. You knew before logging on what to expect. You’ve known what to expect from this game ever since you had a sizable amount of experience on here, say a year. Your character is 5 years old. I think that’s enough time to have become familiar with EVE to know whether it’s worth it to stick around for you or not.
Then perhaps you shouldn’t try to argue for something you have no experience of.
Well obviously your friend isn’t going to just keep those items and look at them. The keys have a purpose, and the purpose is to increase the isk value. Thus, it all spurred from isk.
Also, try not to derail the discussion by using irrelevant ad hominems. It’s really tiring that every single one of you naysayers on this thread is doing this same thing when you run out of actual arguments.
Yea, and I can sit at my home staring at a wall and it’ll be fun if I have a friend over, drinking a beer and talking crap with me. That doesn’t make staring at a wall a great activity.
A strawman and an irrelevant argument. Back to back.
Please stop.
Is this thread about shooting NPCs? I thought it was about the Winter Nexus event quality. If you only mean NPC shooting under that then modify your title, and I’ll modify my posts.
Of really? Who would have thought?
The clarifiers in particular allow for sites to be done in a Marauder. That’s all. Maybe he just loves flying his marauder so much he doesn’t wanna run the sites in any other hull. I hear the rewards aren’t better for marauder sites anyway. Which makes hunting those LADs for isk ridiculous.
Look who’s talking!
Sounds like a much better activity than complaining on EVE forums, honestly.
Yeah. because you don’t have a counter to that. Either you know the game and what to expect, and your complaints are irrelevant. Or you’re playing EVE having expected to log into a wholly different game this winter season than last time.
It’s about the whole event. That INCLUDES shooting NPCs and various other things, which you according to your own words have no experience of.
That’s the thing. The rewards aren’t really better, but they are supposed to be. So perhaps your friend is under the illusion that it’s worth it isk-wise
You opened up the venue for criticism towards ad hominems by engaging in them.
Doesn’t seem like it, as player complaints about the event obviously got CCP to buff the drops. Also, I’ve got a lot of personal satisfaction out of this thread by proving myself right time and again.
You can all thank me later, when you can finally admit you were wrong and I was doing a good thing by criticizing a half-assed event.
I don’t need to counter something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Stay on target.
edit: I’ll explain why, since otherwise you’ll just keep pushing this anyways:
The strawman: you are misrepresenting me by trying to say my expectations are through the roof, when all I am expecting is an event that is at least ON PAR with previous Winter nexuses and the previous events this year. And the truth is, it’s below all of them.
The irrelevant part: player expectations. It’s completely irrelevant what a player’s expectations are if the event is sub-par compared to itself. When CCP could’ve literally slapped in the 2024 Winter nexus and have a better event, then it’s completely irrelevant if someone expected to have “strippers sent to their house”. Especially when CCP has already proven in 2025 that they can deliver much better events.
If Meridan’s friend is as storyline motivated as I am I would not be so sure.
That goes without saying!
Can someone loan me 200m for a Gila so I can try to finish the event?
They just added more stuff…
I can pay you back 250m when I get the 75 plex!
Get out of here, beggar. Mods, get him!
With patrician regards
-James Fuchs
Worst event in my eve life time, not only did eve make drops less valuable they made the whole event worthless, to many farmers have sturated the xmas event, ruining it beyond belief.
Eve, not worth paying for 4 accounts.
I’m still looking to redeem my regards, James!