Cloak Trick Not Working For Me

(Cardinal War-Richte) #1

I have a Malediction Taxi with the following fit:

[Malediction, Cardinal War-Richte’s Malediction]
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II

Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
5MN Microwarpdrive II

Improved Cloaking Device II

Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

When I attempt to activate the MWD after activating the cloak, I get the error message
“Interference from the cloaking you are doing is preventing your systems from functioning at this time”.

Currently I’ve tried the Cloak Trick while still under the gate cloak. Do I need to wait for the gate cloak to complete first or am I doing something else wrong?

(Makshima Shogo) #2

You align mwd cloak in that order you have to do all of those commands in under 2 second’s. Shortcut keys help

(Scipio Artelius) #3

Why are you mwd/cloaking in an Interceptor?

(Cardinal War-Richte) #4

I’ve been attempting the Eve University method:

Hit align to your point of interest
Immediately after hit the cloak
Immediately after you hit cloak hit your MWD (this does work, you can activate non-offensive modules for 5 seconds after you activate a cloaking device).
When your MWD cycle is about 90-95% complete, deactivate your cloak and spam warp to your point of interest.

Is this wrong?
The MWD will deactivate automatically, and when it does you will instantly enter warp.

(Scipio Artelius) #5

It sounds as though the server is not registering the align, before it’s also registering your cloak command, so include a short pause after hitting align and then hit cloak.

Not much of a pause, but just a little one.

(Cardinal War-Richte) #6

The Malediction with the fit shown aligns in 1.8 seconds and I know Interceptors are bubble proof. However, are you saying that the 1.8 sec is too fast for anyone to warp scramble me>

(Cardinal War-Richte) #7

ok, thanks. I’ll try that. I’m in Australia - a long way from the servers!

(Scipio Artelius) #8

To warp scram you they are going to have to be within 10km generally (unless bonused). So if they are outside that, the best they can do is point and you can burn away and then warp.

That will be more effective than mwd/cloaking unless something is in scram range and has a lock time less than 1.8 sec.

(Dyver Phycad) #9

That is correct in 99% of the cases. You warp off in 2 server ticks whereas an attacker needs at least 3 server ticks to attack you (for instance warp disrupt you).

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Cloak-MWD-technique makes no sense on an interceptor.

(Cardinal War-Richte) #10

This is great news. I have seen the document you reference. I’ll need to read it more closely!

(Cardinal War-Richte) #11

So I gather from the document that my Malediction will live 99% of the time the only caveat being if my location (Australia) has poor latency.

(Makshima Shogo) #12

until you warp into a smart bombing bs in low sec lol

(Cardinal War-Richte) #13

True. I’m getting into every guide I can find on entering into lo sec and null sec with minimal risk. Sooner or later I’m going to be popped but that’s the way it is.

(Makshima Shogo) #14

You don’t need every guide :] just make a 0m book mark on stations you enter then as you undock let your ship go straight for awhile like 300km make a bookmark, find your common routes you take and make a book mark 300km’s off of every gate and wam untouchable.

(Nora Maldoran) #15

It’s also recommended to make the tactical bookmarks Makshima Shogo mentioned either above, below or sideways to gates. So you can’t be easily warped on via a celestial that might be in line of the bookmark and the gate.
Also always try to fit some tank to your Interceptors if possible. The bit extra EHP can decide about live or death by smartbombs.

(Vortexo VonBrenner) #16

it’s align > activate microwarpdrive > then activate cloak , all in rapid seccession.

When you activate MWD and then activate cloak, the MWD will run for one cycle before shutting off. This is enough to get your ship up to the 75% of maximum speed it needs to be at to enter warp (non-covert ops cloaking reduce overall max speed - working to your advantage as you then reach that 75% faster).

Once you get up to speed where you can warp, de-activate cloak and immediately warp off (don’t wait for the visual animation to complete).

(Keno Skir) #17

No it isn’t. Common mistake. The cloak comes before the MWD.

(Makshima Shogo) #18

It doesn’t matter as long as you do it quick enough, the advantage of mwd first is that if you press it too quickly and it says that you cant do that while cloaked at least you still cloak instead of just mwd :stuck_out_tongue:

(Keno Skir) #19

It’s just harder to get the ticks right if you do it the wrong way is all. If you do cloak first you have several entire seconds to hit the MWD while safely cloaked already. Someone would have to be real stupid (or mistaken) to not take advantage of that extra time.

There is no advantage to doing it MWD first, only disadvantage.

(Cardinal War-Richte) #20

Hi Vortexo,
Sorry for the late reply. Your sequence is different to the sequence in the Eve University article, which I can’t get to work. I’ll try the sequence you suggest and let you know how I went.
Kevin