CODE - can anyone can explain?

[Alexi_Stokov]

@Zymex

@Black_Pedro

@Zymex

If two people go play CoD they both know what they are in for. It is not one person that takes a dump on another player who can’t defend himself. It is an even playing field.

Eve is also an even-playing field. Everyone spawns into the game world the same way and gets to make their own destiny.

It is not.

A player who played 10 years have way more advantage than a 1 month old character that goes mining to make his first money.

In CoD you go into the same match, with the same equipment.

It is not really that hard to tell the difference.

Sure dude cause the guy that’s in match 10 is exactly the same as the guy on his 1000th. Besides the experience difference I seem to remember having to unlock gear as you play.

[Rocket_Hellfire]

@Ima_Wreckyou

the New Halaima Code of Conduct.

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the New Halaima Code of Conduct.

[Wavemistress_Moidel]

New Halaima Code of Conduct is not new, It’s been around for years. Albeit still effective in the systems you police but many systems you don’t so it’s still hit and miss. Maybe change it’s name to the New Halaima Code of Pipe Cleaners, because these days thats all you lot do sit in the pipes and clean autopiloting freighters.

[Duct_Work]

@Ima_Wreckyou

That’s because I’m an idiot

Wankers can bump a freighter for hours with no consequence but if you follow them for 2 jumps they report it to ccp. Such funny little zealots.

[Scipio_Artelius]

@Duct_Work

but if you follow them for 2 jumps they report it to ccp. Such funny little zealots.

Anyone breaking the rules should be reported, no matter whether they are a botter, harassing other players, or breaking the EULA some other way.

So if you’ve been reported for harassing other players, who have made specific attempts to move away from you, then the easiest thing is to just not break the rules of the game.

In game there’s lot’s of stuff we can all do, but none of that allows any of us to breach the EULA.

[Dracvlad]

Well I remember one player who was scouting the activities of a bumper and the bumper reported him for harassment, was a very odd moment indeed. Do you agree with me that the said bumper should have HTFU’d or not?

So keeping tabs on bumpers is a breaking of the EULA moment is it, because that is what you are actually defending Scipio. So when I follow someone 's hot drop character to counter drop I can be reported for harassment can I? Seriously silly…

That is the level to which CODE stoop too in this game, just saying mate!

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What the CODE posters will do is try to avoid the question on whether it is correct to report someone for harassment who is doing an intel role. That is an example of CODE harassing people who were merely trying to report the location of their bumper in game as part of an intel network. They can slice and dice it all that they want, but that is how CODE play.

[Ima_Wreckyou]

It’s pretty easy actually. Don’t break the EULA and you don’t have to worry if anyone is reporting you for whatever reason. People report me all day for invalid reasons, I even watched someone doing it on a stream.

Or are you saying that there is a group of people who is so special it should be ok for them to break the EULA and we just all agree that we don’t report them, because they just can’t help themselves? Because it sounds a bit like that is what you are saying.

@Dracvlad

What the CODE posters will do is try to avoid the question on whether it is correct to report someone for harassment who is doing an intel role

Why would you even care if someone is reporting you if you don’t break the EULA? The rules are pretty clear and if they are not then write a petition and ask CCP if it’s ok to follow someone around and report his position. I guess that is what scouts do all over the game, so I would be surprised if that is actually an issue.

[Scipio_Artelius]

@Dracvlad

So keeping tabs on bumpers is a breaking of the EULA moment is it, because that is what you are actually defending Scipio.

I’m not defending anything.

CCP have been clear in the past that if players follow other players around, even after they’ve attempted to move away from them, then that can be considered harassment (except under a wardec where it is expected behaviour).

Nothing to defend. If a ruling is good for one, it’s good for all, no matter whether someone’s playstyle is agreeable or not.

I don’t get to chose which rules I’m bound by and which I’m not. I’m bound by them all.

[Dracvlad]

You are avoiding that question Scipio again, you are supporting people reporting someone for harassment who was gathering intel on their location so people would know not to jump through a gate. Is that correct in terms of the EULA?

Using the EULA to stop in game intel gathering is rather typical of CODE and an example of just what CODE is.

[Ima_Wreckyou]

@Dracvlad

Using the EULA to stop in game intel gathering is rather typical of CODE and an example of just what CODE is.

Law abiding citizens?

Maybe you should just not harass other people then you would not have to come to the forums to cry about people reporting you (or whoever you are defending).

I’m also pretty sure if there actually was a ban then you probably ommited half the story, you know the part with the actual harassment (was is vulgarity in local?) so you can play the victim card.

Maybe tell nitshe (just wild guess, but probably a good one ) that he should not harass people? I know the little whiteknight in you thinks the cause justifies the means, but this is a computer game and the rules are the same for everyone.

[Nana_Skalski]

John Cleese represents a lot of people, that is why the sketch is so good.

[Isabella_Loja]

@Dracvlad

Using the EULA to stop in game intel gathering is rather typical of CODE and an example of just what CODE is.

It doesn’t stop intel gathering.

If you want to save a mining fleet:
Position scouts and the Gates and keep an eye on the sips coming trough this gates.

If you want to escort a Freighter:
Just keep at Freighter +1 and perhaps a second one on Freighter +2 on your road to destination.

To get intel for HS purpose, you don’t have to follow a single pilot through space…

[Scipio_Artelius]

@Dracvlad

You are avoiding that question Scipio again, you are supporting people reporting someone for harassment who was gathering intel on their location so people would know not to jump through a gate. Is that correct in terms of the EULA?

No I’m not.

I dont think gathering Intel is an issue that is harassing.

If you can show me where I said that, then i apologize. If not, then hopefully you have the same courtesy.

[Dracvlad]

@Isabella_Loja

To get intel for HS purpose, you don’t have to follow a single pilot through space…

When it is a bumper you do as that is the danger ship.

So you think it is ok to report that under the EULA then? Well talk about being a snow flake and a half…

@Scipio_Artelius

I dont think gathering Intel is an issue that is harassing.

Good to see that and thanks for answering the question, I never said you said that, I was merely asking you if you thought it was harassment, so I have nothing to apologize for.

[ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode]

Removed some off topic posts. Keep it on topic and civil, thanks.

[Mevatla_Vekraspek]

When you hit the bottom, take you shovel and dig.

[Scipio_Artelius]

@Dracvlad

I never said you said that, I was merely asking you if you thought it was harassment, so I have nothing to apologize for.

@Dracvlad

You are avoiding that question Scipio again, you are supporting people reporting someone for harassment who was gathering intel

Not unexpected.

I never wrote anything about intel. Nor did the guy I replied to.

[Dracvlad]

@Scipio_Artelius

Not unexpected.

I never wrote anything about intel. Nor did the guy I replied to.

@Duct_Work

ut if you follow them for 2 jumps they report it to ccp. Such funny little zealots.

Why else would he follow a bumper, and the case I remember was one guy who followed a bumper for intel and was reported .

That was the specific example that I detailed and you just quoted the EULA back at him and at me making it appear that you supported that, which I asked you to clarify.

I am glad to see you got off your high horse on it but to expect me to apologize for asking you to clarify your statements on the EULA is a bit rich, because when you reply with that sort of statement

@Scipio_Artelius

CCP have been clear in the past that if players follow other players around, even after they’ve attempted to move away from them, then that can be considered harassment (except under a wardec where it is expected behaviour).

Nothing to defend. If a ruling is good for one, it’s good for all, no matter whether someone’s playstyle is agreeable or not.

I don’t get to chose which rules I’m bound by and which I’m not. I’m bound by them all.

Nice try to paint me as wrong but my comment was replying to the fact that following someone around was implied as harassment in your sentence above.

[Scipio_Artelius]

@Dracvlad

Why else would he follow a bumper

Lots of possible reasons. However, as above, the lack of courtesy isn’t unexpected.

It can be spun anyway you want to imagine it all meant something other than what was written, but it only meant what was written.

[Dracvlad]

@Scipio_Artelius

It can be spun anyway you want to imagine it all meant something other than what was written, but it only meant what was written.

When people detail specific incidents of reporting people for harassment to try to make them stop reporting them in intel and you write that directly underneath you are appearing to support it, which is why I asked you to clarify it and you did. Am I supposed to apologize for asking you to clarify your statement?