I agree Null sec farmed a lot, but when you look on battles where ships are smashed…
calculate now how much there is burned down. Yes we farm - and yet we destroy as well.
Right now all new updates hit only null (I even don’t mine anymore it’s useless in null the lowest rewards from mining compare to hi-sec and low.) And yet we blow up things again. Now I just want to see what this update will bring to us.
Not enough to balance things out. Not in the slightest.
Do you have actual numbers to back any of this up?
Because we can literally look at the MERs from 2016-2019 compared to destruction and note that there is a HUGE disparity in the amounts that were mined and destroyed, resulting in massive stockpiles in the trillions that still exist today.
Which is exactly why CCP is making all these changes.
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If you want 100% safe PvE farming then EVE is not the game for you. Go play something else and stop complaining about how EVE is trying to appeal to a different market.
Because CCP does not believe that there is a problem. And they are correct. Your inability to farm 23/7 without interruption is a feature, not a bug.
And you, punk, do not get to judge
Sure I do. You’re the perfect demonstration of the perma-victim mindset, always making up excuses for why success is impossible and it isn’t worth trying. I have judged you and found you unworthy of being anything but a teaching example for others.
bro just tell them to find a new career path. mining exists
but what about the 1 dude with no mic, bad skills and alpha trying to make a start in a simple myrm. if all sites get replaced where would be the content for people who cant engage in your so called commitment, do they just fall out and leave the game sure lets see hwo long the game last if that happens.
You’re not up to date, aren’t you?
Mining got Hilmar’d last month. It no longer exists.
Total rubbish. Mining still exists and is just fine.
Except you can’t build anything with the results of it, and nullsec rocks lost 66-90% of its value, so there’s no point whatsoever in doing it, but yeah, I guess you can say mining lasers are still there.
Are you and Utter Nonsense related? 
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Weird. I still build stuff with minerals. Your blueprints must be corrupted if mining outside of mining missions doesn’t produce useful ore.
Or are you complaining that mining the same anom 100 times doesn’t give you an ideal ratio of minerals anymore?
We’re not talking “ideal”, mate. There’s only Pyerite, Mexallon, Megacyty, and Zydrine. And a tiny bit of Morphite. There is NO Tritanium (not even a bit), NO Isogen (a bit in worthless Omber rocks, not enough for ships though), NO Nocxium (you can get a tiny bit of it if you mine yourself silly up to level 4-5 indy, which is even bigger magnet for stupids than my space normally is, and there’s still not enough of it for ships).
I dare you to show me a ship you can build with no Trit, which cannot be obtained in nullsec by mining (except in relic sites in some space, but quatnity isn’t significant enough for ships either).
So the way to make ppl spend stockpiled resource is to kill null sector mining? Well it exist not dead yet, but income is low compare to hi-sec and low-sec, you think this is right?
I dare you to explain why you are utterly incapable of using the market or moving to another area of space to get the minerals you want, by means of selling the excess minerals you don’t want. You know, just like you had to do for a decade of EVE.
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Ah, it’s hisec talking again.
Bruh, do you even realize the cost of nullsec move ops?
Also, nearest dockable market is 18 hostile systems away, good luck bringing any significant amount from there.
But let’s assume for a second a wh straight to jita 4-4 just opened up, but only ore haulers can come through it. Then you’ll need to mine about 12000m3 of compressed ore (means about 1 full Orca of uncompressed, do math how long it’ll take you to fill one by your own skills), to get those “excess minerals”, and exchange it for 3000m3 of compressed ore from hisec (because nullsec ore is this worthless now, yes), to build a single Prophecy, no fitting included.
Scale it up to 15 people needing a battlecruiser, and close the jita 4-4 wormhole, and you’ll see the problem becomes unsolvable even before we moved to battleships, not to mention caps. Unless you’re willing to bust an amazing amount of spacebucks on jf fuel, which is like all-time high now, so that this Prophecy would cost you twice the rising jita price, which is not really a solution either.
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Get some trit then
I thought you were making some sense earlier, now I see you want hand-fed and really are just a wanting isk for free.
Then stop mining it?
If it’s that worthless, then stop producing the worthless ore, move to highsec instead, mine said Veld, and buy the worthless ore from the other idiot who keeps mining it anyway.
Edit. Also lets say your maths is right, I’m pretty sure a single JF can move enough Veld for over 100 Battlecruisers by your maths in a single trip, what’s the issue?
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Oh, that bad, eh?
Please humor me, do it like an eve player.
Sit down, pull the spreadsheet up, and do the math on cost (including manhours and cyno ships, those aren’t cheap nowadays) of hauling enough trit to make a single dreadnought.
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Why? What purpose would having a dread serve?
Btw, did you know you can build ships outside of Null?
I built a carrier in High Sec.
Just admit its isk without effort you want.
So NOW you realize mining got Hilmar’d?
Then I need to make ISK to do the trade. How would I do that?
Ratting? About to be Hilmar’d.
PI? Logistics is in process of getting Hilmar’d due to ice changes, you’ll burn more fuel than you gain in doing it soon.
Deadspace loot perhaps, but drop rates and escalation rates got Hilmar’d last year, it doubled in price, but less income than it was due to lower rates, and relies on RNG too much. When deadspace loot gets devalued because everyone is farming it, what’s next?
Next is blackout conditions. There’s local, but you still can’t undock anything, because no activity is worth doing. Should all nullsec who isn’t in a bloc ratting in a super just pack up and go hisec?
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I’m not going to bother doing it all
But
| Compressed Veldspar | 291770 | 43765.5 | 0.71 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Total Volume | 43765.5 M3 | ||
| So oh no! A Dread might actually require effort to make moving materials around! How terrible! | |||
| Oh wait, isn’t that only like 15% of a JF’s capacity so you can haul enough for about 8 Dreads in a single JF? |
You do get that that is literally the aim of this update right?
That making Capital ships actually is meant to be effort.
Nice cutting of my quote to ignore the actual point of it. I mean of course I shouldn’t expect any more from a crybaby at this point.
Mine the valuable highsec ore you were crying about just before, idiot.
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