I really don’t want to write a wall of text, so I’ll try to keep it as concise as possible.
Doing hacking is not more challenging with low skills. I think I pointed this out in my previous post. Low skills high skills, it’s the same repetitive stuff. Low skills will make it more difficult and time-consuming, but not more intellectually challenging to click through that window. There is a difference there. Having low skills is not gonna make clicking it more interesting. Do you seriously not see that?
I never claimed I don’t want the advantage from high skills. I have over 200m SP and I am very proud of having maxed out some things in this game like command ships and boosting, for example. I’m never gonna say ‘‘fleet boosting is more challenging with low skills, so I won’t max myself out’’. That’s nonsense.
You can’t seem to be able to differentiate between superiority/advantage (quantity) and challenging/interesting gameplay (quality), and have artificially injected SP as an argument into this topic. But SP does not belong in this argument.
‘‘Play something else?’’ You’re not the one to come telling me what I spend my leisure time on or how I entertain myself. I find EVE very entertaining and an interesting game and I have been here since 2009. It’s exactly my cup of tea of a game, since it is the only video game I have ever liked.
That said, hacking is not part of what I do in EVE. It’s not the game play I participate in. But I have, and I know what it’s like. The reason I don’t do it is the same reason i don’t do missions or Abyssals, or rat – it’s boring, repetitive, and unchallenging. There is no creativity in it. It’s the same copy-paste click fest where you know in advance what to do and what the outcome is. That is where the challenge part is missing. I know a couple of people who love missions, and when I’ve asked them about why, the reason they give is along the lines of ‘‘I know what I’m supposed to do, and it’s a calming type of game play with almost no risk and guaranteed outcome’’. Some guys want that type of game play. Others want less predictability. Which is the point of this discussion on challenge.
EVE is at its best where it’s most unpredictable. You can never argue away that clicking through the hacking minigame, as a current example but there are others, is like that.
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Damn it, it still amounted to a wall of text now.
You have no point. You’re just being a contrarian. Nobody - and I mean nobody - including you, want to fail hacking sites. You want the loot. That’s why you scanned them down; to get loot and make ISK. You do not want a greater chance at failure. Nobody signs in to become the minesweep world champion. People would love it if all hacks were green cores regardless of location or quality of loot. But that is not going to happen. If you want a completely different hacking mechanic altogether, that is a whole different conversation.
Yes, and they do. There is content that is too challenging for alpha skills. Some sites require omega and t2 ships and Sisters probes to even scan down. We gain higher skills, get access to better ships and modules and then go do the more challenging stuff. Congratulations! You did it. If your skills are maxed out and you are claiming there is no challenge (sleeper sites and all), then make the challenge you seek.
Correct. Level 2 to 5 missions get progressively more difficult. So you train into the necessary ships to do them. Which in turns nets more reward. People don’t do L4’s or L5’s for challenge. They do them because they net more ISK and LP for time spent. Because low level missions give trash ISK, salvage and LP. Sure, I’d assume most would love to do L1’s and net the same rewards as an L5, Incursions or whatever, but CCP is never going to do that. People who want challenge do L2’s in corvettes or L3’s in destroyers.
Yes, it is. You can actually fail hacks with low skills that you wouldn’t with better skills, ships and modules. Do you only explore in HiSec?
I just did. And you’re not the one who decides how challenging hacking is. You take what you’re given or mov along. Apparently, you do like Eve for other things, so your complaint is moot. Especially considering…
Not sure why you made a wall of text for something you don’t like nor participate in. Everything is not going to be tailored to you likes.
Then do whatever unpredictable content you’re doing seeing as you are psychic and know where all the defense nodes are and can predict where they are to avoid them. Or are you claiming every game of minesweep is an exact clone copy and you’ve memorized the whole board?
No, Mark is correct, I played the first crimson harvest before it had hacking puzzles and when the sites were pretty much the same in every part of space.
You are successfully doing the Challenging content. Surely that was the reason for taking all that time skilling up and earning/spending the ISK to kit yourself out with the best?
If you find it not challenging anymore to the extent that you need to complain in public about it then maybe you need to think about a new/different direction and seek accomplishment there?
Did what? Imagine that what you say has any relevance or weight to someone else’s life? Then yeah, you did do that.
I know that in this game everything will not be tailored to my likes. Never said that. Another thing you must have imagined in your head. And I’m okay with everything not being tailored to my likes, it would be unreasonable to expect otherwise.
No, but that’s not what I find interesting either. Maybe to play it a couple of times a year for laughs, but I don’t really get anything out of doing stuff like that and it very very quickly gets boring. It doesn’t develop me as a person nor enhance my cognitive abilities. It’s a waste of time and not my thing.
(Just for context, I solve quantum mechanical problems for fun and if I want something interesting. Now that’s challenging. Anybody who tries to sell me on a minesweeper game is not gonna succeed).
You did it. If your skills are maxed out and you are claiming there is no challenge (sleeper sites and all), then make the challenge you seek.