He is not wrong.
Insta warp warps on the 1st server tick and can not be caught.
2 second warp is not insta as warps 1 second later., on the 2nd server tick and can be caught.
Instawarps are sub 2s warp. You can indeed catch some instawarp ships with the right setup, as explained in the guide I linked above.
Instawarp ships that warp within 1 second cannot be caught.
If the usage of the term refers to the ability to not be caught, then only <1s are instawarp.
If the usage refers to the minimum possible align, then only <1s are instawarp.
In any case, 2s are not instawarp.
Just because some site or someone or even all the people you know say it is, does not make it true.
They are wrong, repeating the same mistake in an echo chamber.
For example, the eve uni says
If your ship insta-aligns, you canât be tackled as long as you hit warp before the other player hits lock. You can safely jump into, and warp off, any gate, as long as it isnât bubbled.
This is WRONG for 2s.
Oh no, someone else is WRONG on the internet?
Please have some fun and search for âinstawarp EVEâ online. Pretty much every instance of instawarp mentioned is talking about aligning in less than 2 seconds:
This means that the majority of players will refer to âinstawarpâ when they have a ship that aligns in less than 2 seconds.
You can call it âWRONGâ all you want, but the nature of language isnât about being right or wrong, itâs about having a common understanding.
And to have common understanding with others, please keep in mind that most people will not agree on your definition of instawarp, no matter how much more right you think you are.
Does NOT change that they are wrong.
The eve uni site that you cited yourself contradicts what you wrote just before.
And the majority of players is WRONG because of people like you, who canât acknowledge their mistake and rather repeat something wrong than to think.
All words just to hide the fact that you ARE wrong.
Please keep in mind that you can be factually wrong.
I already gave my arguments. You have none other than to cite a site that contradicts what your other claims.
Then claim that you canât be wrong.
If you cite a site that contradicts you, are wrong.
This isnât about a decision though, but about common language shared between EVE players.
If most EVE players say that <2s align is instawarp, then that is the most common definition.
What you have is a different definion. Iâm not saying itâs a bad definition, but itâs definitely not the only definition.
No, this is about the mechanisms of the game.
The term âinstant warpâ refers to the ability to NOT get caught at a gate.
This term is used for a reason, not for the sake of making up arbitrary definitions.
No, this is a belief.
Because YOU propagate that mistake.
Because YOU prefer to be wrong that to acknowledge your errors.
This is the definition given by EVE UNI FFS !! The one you linked !
How stubborn can you be to not even realize your error when itâs showed in your face !
There is only one way to settle this debate
If youâre going to make Vokan the final arbiter, I suspect I know his choice:
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Donât forget to tell him that your source is saying â â â â .
https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Instant_align
If your ship insta-aligns, you canât be tackled as long as you hit warp before the other player hits lock. You can safely jump into, and warp off, any gate, as long as it isnât bubbled.
It takes a minimum of 2 seconds (2 server ticks) for someone to be able to lock and tackle your ship. So if your ship aligns in 2 seconds or less then you can be in warp before being tackled.
Eve uni is wrong.
And so are you since you follow that old wrong idea.
Donât you ever get tired arguing that everyone else is wrong and only you are right?
Do you ever get tired of ignoring the arguments that prove you wrong ?
What a lot of efforts to answer everything BUT what is important.
Iâm not seeing arguments that prove me wrong.
What Iâm seeing is a lack of understanding nuance and unwillingness to compromise that definitions arenât set in stone but can have multiple meanings.
I literally quoted them both. From the exact site you used as a reference.
What I see a lot of effort to avoid the actual arguments.
You quoted the source I linked that said the same thing as I was saying and then said âeve uni is wrongâ, telling me that this means I am wrong too.
Please, how is you saying âthey are wrong and you tooâ an argument that proves me wrong? Itâs just your opinion.
But opinions and definitions aside, letâs go back to topic: Occator fits.
Does anyone have good Occator fits?
No, it does not.
Read again.
Eve uni disagrees with you.
Take the time to actual think it.
This is what you say:
This is what they say :
if your ship aligns in 2 seconds or less then you can be in warp before being tackled.
You are saying two opposite things.
@Vokan_Narkar may surprise you
Why donât you guys just test it out? Duel each other, one uses a sub 2s align fit and tries to warp away after a gate jump, the other tries to tackle with whatever setup he thinks is the best for it.
Can be done from Jita in a few minutes for basically no significant cost.
No need to test it!
I know that the vast majority of the time Iâll be completely safe in my sub 2s align fit. And I also know Iâm not 100% safe, because if someone with low latency to London, a high sensor strength and also remote sensor boosts from a second ship is ready to tackle me, they have a chance to lock me before I can warp. After all, this scenario has happened to me once in 7 years of playing.
Itâs possible to tackle a sub 2s align ship, just highly improbable. So for everyday use anything sub 2s is safe and therefore by most players called âinstawarpâ.
Now if youâre hauling a few billion ISK worth of small goods you can reduce your risks even further by using a sub 1s align Hecate, like recommended in the same guide above that Stefnia called âWRONGâ because it referred to sub 2s align fits as instawarp.
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