The CSM has prevent CCP from doing some seriously catastrophic things that are a hundred times worse than resource scarcity.
Can you show proof of that?
Not without breaking an NDA and earning a permaban from CCP. If you ask nicely, Iâm sure that at least one dev will be able to corroborate the claim.
I want to know what CCPâs idea for Expert Systems was, before they asked for advice from the CSM.
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A yes the âtrust me on this oneâ approach, sorry no. Donât get me wrong I fully understand businesses brainfarting ideas to see what sticks, most of those wonât stick even without something like a CSM.
Also, âcatastrophicâ for whom? You? Me? The null block status quo? The people who lead and control that status quo? Short term? Long term?
I donât for one second trust any representative and Iâd most certainly not trust them with game design or balancing, way too many ulterior motives.
So unless someone states an actual thing, with details, they thought was bad and it was the CSM that stopped it, and only the CSM, none of us have any reason to trust that statement.
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I didnât say âtrust meâ. I said âask for yourself because Iâm not going to get banned because you donât want to ask CCP yourselfâ. I take it you have no real clue what is involved in the CSM. When you sign up, you sign a contract that says âI will not share things to the public that CCP talks to me about, under penalty of permanent ban, among other thingsâ. They can literally lose their entire EVE career if they sneeze the wrong thing at someone. You have to ask CCP yourself.
any proof of it, or just the usual latrine slogan?
And why should I trust your word on this?
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Even as a non goon can confirm this.
Because the information about the NDA existing is available all over the place? Now you are just being an ass.
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No Iâm asking how he knows the CSM did amazing things, if no one was allowed to tell him that they did?
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Page 6. âNon-Disclosure Agreementâ. Specifically: "Any behavior or actions considered being a material breach of the EULA, TOS or NDA by a CSM delegate is grounds for immediate dismissal and permanent exclusion from all pending and future participation in the council, as well as potential legal action depending on the severity of the breach. "
Seriously, if youâre going to talk smack about everything you know nothing about, youâre going to get muted for spamming.
Iâm simply asking you who you are that you know of these amazing saves the CSM did, if no one within the CSM was allowed to speak on it. And how catastrophic those saves were, and for whom they were catastrophic.
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Evan McLean has my #1 vote this year
Iâm pretty sure the CSM helped get the minimum 5% market tax established for upwell structures. Aka, The TTT Relief Act.
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Of course it leads nowhere - all youâve got here is baseless speculation and false accusations.
Do us all a favor and stop making things up.
Brisc gave us a âdisable sun glare optionâ and a toggle for the Red Dot. What more could you ask for in a single term?
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Thats true.
Credit where credit is due.
Why would it be withdrawn? Hereâs the piece of the puzzle youâre missing:
Itâs not about us. Itâs not about you. You know who else plays in J-space?
Hilmar.
Itâs all about him.
But, letâs move beyond thatâŚ
Why should I? The less of you who vote, the more power my vote has.
Again, why should I? I donât want you involved.
Kinda irrelevant, since the CSM doesnât have the power to do anything. Anyone coming onto the CSM with an agenda and promises of âI will do XYZâ is full of crap and has no idea what theyâre talking about. The CSM canât make changes. All they can do is talk to CCP devs and give their advice. In the end, the devs still decide whatâs happening.
One thing weâve seenâand had documentedâin the past is that the CSM is only effective when theyâre united. When all but one of the CSM tell CCP âthis is a bad idea and here are all of the reasons why, including hundreds of pages of data and charts explaining it all out in painful detailâ and thereâs one guy saying âI have no idea what Iâm talking about, but this sounds AWESOMEââŚ
CCP believes the one guy who validates what they already want to do.
Your playstyle? The CSM has nothing to do with it. The CSM canât support it. What you really want are CSMs whoâll talk to the players and figure out whether or not CCPâs intentions will screw your playstyle, and then all come together to tell CCP to avoid doing that.
Vote for 1 guy who wonât, and you undo the work of all the others.
Well, since PA doesnât dictate anything for EVE Online, youâre asking me to prove something that doesnât exist.
Why? You needed more than two lines to whine.
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I also think he vastly over-estimates Goons ability to coordinate in a manner to not screw up a C5 cap escalation siteâŚ
Our wormhole guys have no problem operating in any part of j-space they find themselves in. Theyâve been doing it for a decade. Theyâre not dumb.