I think most people would want a checkbox to “not show any contract links” “not show any hypernet links” and “not show any internet links” for local channels.
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Technically it should be easy to distinguish between those links:
╫Amarr 512 Lowest in New Eden
<url=hyperNet:5394fa8a-56d6-4526-91df-6ef7f9daf9dd>Marshal 21m<url=hyperNet:574b8be7-4bab-4020-bf17-c2ed0cbe80fa>Providence 7.6m<url=hyperNet:48db5339-e737-4e71-81c5-34eef12ee6d5>Panther 2.6m<url=hyperNet:759da2e2-b0aa-4ab3-bcff-ef8234839c1d>Paladin 3.3m<url=hyperNet:c364df6f-1851-494b-9969-37b5b818caaf>Fenrir 7.2m
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<url=contract:30002187//188881482>[12x BPC T1 Battlecruiser 10 Runs/Res] 129,5M
<url=contract:30002187//189164572>[5x BPC T2 Exhumer/Frigate + T2 Set] 349,5M
<url=contract:30002187//189164615>[12x BPC T1 Battlecruiser 10 Runs/Res] 129,5M
Every link is basically a URL and Contract, Hypernet and so on ar clearly mentioned in the URL. You would need a new filter feature that allows filtering based on these cue words. Only problem I see at a glance is that Contract is used for Item Exchange and Couriers alike, so you’d block really all contracts with such a filter. More granular cue words would fix this.
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I don’t think you understand how feedback works. Pointing out issues cannot be bad feedback. When you QA Test a feature, you are supposed to find and catalog as many problems as possible so that they are registered and known for future work on fixes. Maybe I take my own profession too far in EVE, but this is how feedback in a professional testing process works.
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Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online if it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be.
Sometimes your posts blur that line with insults towards ccp and csm
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Brisc,
Human Factors is its own engineering discipline for good reason. Not everybody is an expert, nor should they be. Just because some of the nuances are not obvious to everybody does not mean that they don’t exist or are not significant. There’s a lot of information about what makes the most human sense in what the design of all things we use are – from keyboards, to mice, to touchpads, and as is more common nowadays, graphical user interfaces (GUIs).
The fact that it is possible to play eve through a worse UI does not mean that the worse UI should be accepted.
Lipstick on a pig makes it look better, but it is still a pig. We aren’t asking for eye liner to be added to the pig – mind you it needs a fair bit of that too, but our concerns are largely under-the-hood systematic issues with the UI. From the piss poor optimization, to the inconsistent scaling and text sizes that screw up everything with highly inconsistent buffer spacing, to the “clickable” portions of the buttons not matching the visual size of the boxes, or failing to provide feedback (audio or visual) of when things are being clicked, held click (like dragging a scroll bar), and so on.
To use a metaphor:
The 2001 dodge charger, with rust spots, dented doors, and a cracked windshield needs to be replaced. We were told that we would get a car that is faster, or simiarly fast. Instead we get an economy car that is clearly slower… and then are told “but it’s newer and looks better!”.
You aren’t wrong, but you are missing the point. Sure, the ecnomy car will get us to work and back. it does the job, but it is nowhere near as fast as what we had before. That is what we are going through right now. You can call a fast car a luxury, or an unnecessary luxury, but playing eve is a luxury and damn it, I want it to go fast.
Adding in additional menus and window layers to make room for empty buffets of space. several less letters shown in a box that is the same size and with the same font in the same area means I need to make it bigger, which means I have less room on my screen to see space and the situation around me. That impacts gameplay, a lot.
And, as I and several others have pointed out, it’s not just photon UI. It’s the “reworked” skill training screen, and several others. The human factors design aspects of ALL of CCP’s new and recent additions have been objectively worse user interfaces.
Are they prettier? Perhaps, Eye in the beauty of the one holding bees, or whatever.
More clicks to do basic ■■■■ and less information provided to the player while requiring a lot more screen real estate to do so is an objectively worse interface. It is an objectively less functional interface. That is the issue, and the failure of CCP to acknowledge that it exists is highly troublesome.
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All battleships are better then the Maelstrom. God i hope that was brought up in the summit. Maelstrom buff 2023 CCPPLZ
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Definitely feels like Dyver and Vortigern have ■■■■ all over this thread to the point that almost everyone has backed away. Okay, you have opinions about the Photon UI. Make them in 2-3 posts on the subject and then STFU. Continuing to argue doesn’t do anything but make you look bad and drive everyone else away from this thread.
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What an absolute dumpster fire this thread turned into. Anyway thanks for the breakdown.
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I find it amazing when people are unnecessarily and incessantly nasty and terrible, people somehow mistake that for “making good points” and “positive criticism”. If you can’t behave yourself in a normal manner like a well adjusted and reasonable adult, why should you be been given reasonable replies?
At some point it becomes obvious that it’s no longer a reasonable question, standpoint or debate but rather a manchild (m/f) being socially incapable. it’s is not a normal, or accepted, mode of conversation. It should not be rewarded nor defended.
You clowns made me agree with Brisc again.
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Hello forum 
I think it’s rather interesting. I can see what the complaints about Photon UI point to but all sides have good points even if they’re sometimes expressed in exasperation. All sides could’ve been a bit more diplomatic.
Obviously it’s nice to have a large flatscreen for any game but the UI’s capability to display important information should be highly adaptable.
Photon does it’s job well enough for my own limited abilities to make it more versatile but compared to other UI’s I have been exposed to it doesn’t exactly blow my skirt up. It’s pretty though.
In terms of dumpster fires, I have seen much worse, @Brisc_Rubal At least the subject of Ganking wasn’t raised
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Fifie double-clicks everything.
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guysguysguys, i think photon is pretty neat
looking through thread
holy ■■■■, this is worse than the reddit!
Hmmm, hardly the best choice of phrasing when lecturing others on civility…
Well, in three hours time the wonderful Photon is being forced upon us. I wonder how many of the opt-out cohort are actually aware of that, given the very poor efforts by CCP to communicate that in advance; on these fora, just the one post that has long been buried out of easy sight.
Maybe I am wrong on the wider reaction, or maybe the patently false claims that only @Dyver_Phycad and I care about it will be exposed.
It will be interesting 
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I’m not lecturing on civility, just observing that you completely ■■■■ this post up and should have stopped posting long ago.
Patently false claims is an absurd straw man. No one is saying you two are the only ones who have criticisms/dislike/whatever about photon. What some of us ARE saying is you behaved pretty horribly in this thread and drove pretty much everyone else away. You could have made your point with 2-3 posts, people would have listened/responded, and then normal discourse about photon and whatever else could have continued. Instead you two decided your views were SO important that you had to keep posting them over and over and over and over until everyone sane except Brisc moved on.
You are two random people on the internet. You aren’t special. Your views aren’t special. Next time Brisc (or some other CSM) starts a thread, please do the rest of Eve a favor and don’t ■■■■ that one up too.
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I am no more random than you, or Rubal. I may not be special, but neither is he.
Look at the content of this thread before I made any comment. One serious issue raised, on which he could not comment because of NDA, and cat ears. Yes, cat ears. I am so sorry that I have driven people away from such weighty debate by daring to suggest that Photon was perhaps a topic where the CSM might actually have held CCP to greater account. Sorry if I squeezed out more fascinating exchanges on cat ears.
Perhaps it would have remained more civil if the privileged member of the CSM had not told someone just to buy a bigger monitor… because it all worked fine on his cinema screen. And did not make that suggestion courteously, but snidely, with comments about wallet size.
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There’s a lot more in the OP that would have been worth discussing, but unfortunately the thread was turned into a train wreck. Hopefully when the minutes are out, it’ll be easier to have a discussion on some of the other important aspects, without it being lost in back and forth by a couple of people.
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Not stopping you now.
I didn’t say you stopped me. The thread was just turned into a mess and so I’ll wait for the minutes to come out, where hopefully so much one-track hijacking of the topic doesn’t happen.
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Fair enough - the point is that said minutes, if they appear, will be after the forced migration to Photon. Why do you think that some of us thought it important to focus on an imminent change and think that precisely because such a massive forced change was so imminent, it might have been a major CSM issue?
I wonder how that’s possible? Io Koval could talk about just fine about his question and so could Syzgium when he brought up the chat filters. But every time they did, Brisc could not contribute anything to the conversation because he doesn’T know anyrhing or the NDA forbids info distribution. That really helps with the converstion. The beauty of forum features like quoting and replying is that you can easily see and follow the conversation string. But except for Io Koval or Proxay’s Projection question, no one even bothered talking about anything else in the OP and only 6 days later people show up and complain with highly amusing language. 
The only people who really make this thread a dumpsterfire are those that chime in 6 days later to berate people who are talking in this topic in a neutral manner with colorful vocabulary that even the forum censors. It’s quite telling that Brisc likes these posts but has not liked Syzygium’s post about the chat filters, for instance. 
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Whaaa?
The thread is only 160something posts old. There’s still a few hundred posts to go before we can call this race.
This thread should not be called a dumpster fire just because a few members disagree. It makes for good conversation… if everyone understands they are no better or worse than the next poster. This is not the military. Random dudes or not, this is a forum ( look up what it means, please ) and participation is not limited to only the illustrious and the VIP’s. A little respect toward everyone regardless can go a long way in the right direction.
And what’s wrong with cat ears?? Include the tails also! New Eden is in a far future, if humanity survives that long cat ears wouldn’t be the weirdest trend around, especially in the Gallente Federation 
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