CSM Member Distribution

Steve is demonstrably earning money off EVE, via 3rd party site and donations to him personally.

That is a serious issue for a CSM.

If I dropped $500-5000 on his Patreon in the next 5mins, would that not concern you?

It’s important to remember that Salvos posts an average of 10 variations of the same nonsense on every thread he pollutes, hence the 10 times as many posts.

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Nope.
Its slapping offtopic nonsense biased posters like you that feeds my post rate.

No. I’d thank you for financially supporting useful functionality.

If we wanted to “buy” any of them… we could contact them and give them money under the table. Nobody would know. If anything, you trying to buy someone overtly makes it LESS likely you’d get anything, because you’d assume they’d have to make certain it didn’t look like someone who’s on record for paying them is getting any kind of benefit. If the goons wanted to pay Steve (or any other CSM member) 10 grand to vote a certain way or say certain things… they wouldn’t do it through patreon.

Your whole argument is ridiculous.

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Nah Gevlon for all the hate did things

He needs to post thousands posts to be the most active poster here.

Do you really think he has time to read posts of others??? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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If the CSM voting system was ‘fine’ and ‘working as intended’ as people here are saying why is the CSM stacked with 0.0’s big alliances? Is that a true representation of the players of EVE online? How many Goons or goon related toons are on the current CSM? What about previous CSM?

Why is the current ‘balance pass’ or rather unbalance pass so clearly in favor of 0.0 shills who want to make isk more safely?

How about the voter statistics? What % of active accounts vote? How many don’t vote at all because they feel there is no point as the current system favors block voters?
How many CSM have had a good spread of representation from across the EVE community? Where is the rep for WHers, Faction War, Low sec etc?

Above all how many potentially great CSM representatives never get on the CSM because 0.0 block voting ensures that 80% of the panel are Goons/Test/NC/PL?

Questions that need answers if CCP want the CSM to truly rep the EVE community.

Dang it @Salvos_Rhoska :angry:

One strongly suspects you do what you’ve done in this thread on purpose for amusement of some sort.

You are not actually stupid. One does not serve as a signals officer, go to international university, speak at least a couple languages, make cool art, and be a complete idiot.

Please stop.

I thought you made good points and looked ahead well on the subject of PA buying CCP…but now you’re back pretending to ignore the painfully obvious and posting crap ad naseum.

Please.

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Ok…
Since you asked so nicely.


Ontopic:

I think its clear a substantial part of the playerbase have lost confidence in the CSM system, and do not feel their interests are being represented. They are also concerned about lack of transparency regarding CSM/CCP exchanges.

I think its also clear a substantial part of the playerbase no longer want to pay for CSM flights and accommodation with their subs.

A normal day with @Salvos_Rhoska at EVEO.

:popcorn:

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To put things in perspective:

If CSM was disbanded tonight, there would not be riots in EVE tomorrow.

Quite frankly, few, if any, would even bat an eyelid at it.

That says a lot about whether the CSM program is worth keeping around or not.

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(O_o)

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Please do so.
Saves me the trouble of responding to/debunking your garbage addressed to me.
Albeit the real reason you would ignore me, is because you cant beat my arguments.

As @ccp_falcon once said to you:

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With all due respect, falcon is probably the only poster here even more hated than I.
shrugs

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But I think other than you he actually plays EVE

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64% voting “No” out of 141 respondents is pretty condemning of confidence in the CSM program.

Next time please include a “IDGAF” option, which can be rolled into the “No” vote as not supporting the program.

Thanks for the poll data.

Repeating “you dont play EVE” over and over is getting you nowhere.
I already delivered screenshot, per your own request, that proves you false.

Wow. Thanks for the tears man. :rofl:

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