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Hey Annah:
I think Solstice has an important opinion that needs to be discussed. Plus their opinion is entertaining. Itās all good. Thanks for the help though, thank you sir! Can I join your corporation?
Or maybe I should just join CODE?
I really really want to try CODE out for awhile just for entertainment purposes only
You should definitely try, it has been a highlight of my EVE career
I just might sir
Anyone that unpopular just gotta be good
Ima Wreckyou (they posted a whole lot much earlier in this thread) is another pilot whose ideas I greatly respect
I am getting sort of tired of bouncing around as a Perkone and a CODE pilot blasted me pretty good once a long time ago
Thanks
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You wish. I stopped responding to his drivel ages ago ā¦ and look what has happened.
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The bot is programmed to go in circles, ofc itās bound to happen lol
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Aaaand there it isā¦ A CSM rep telling everyone that he represents those who vote for him.
Who votes for him? 0.0 F1 monkeys who are told what to do.
Those are the interests represented by the CSM IN HIS OWN WORDS and yet there seems some defensive people on this thread who seem to still have faith in the system.
Youāre either representing the 0.0 shills yourselves or ideological but deluded.
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Come on man, of course i care but I dont engage with the system as it stands because THERE IS NO POINT. Iāve voted in multiple CSM over the years, never has my interests been represented by a candidate of my choice. Not once.
You see why thereās no point?
And Iām not on here āwingingā or ācryingā (ad hominem attacks dude, no need) I, like everyone else, am stating my opinion. If that opinion differs from yours I offer no apology for that. Welcome to free speech, one of the very few democratic attributes that the CSM/CCP still allows. (though Iāll probably get banned for this lol)
Well, everyone in my alliance voted for me. 
Of course, thatās just me.
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Lucas you have totally missed the point here.
I do dislike the CSM, didnt always dislike it but watching it function the way it does had made me dislike it. I now dislike it to the point where I think CCP should pull the plug.
You obviously want me to be quiet. I donāt think i will do that. But feel free to ignore me, you have that right though you shouldnt actually speak about āfactsā because the facts and evidence stand with me.
Marginalised votes whoās votes donāt count.
Block voting stacking the CSM with 80% 0.0 interests, year after year.
CSMās that push 0.0 agendaās.
The current ābalance passā wrecking two game mechanics that 0.0 shills donāt like.
Utterly neglected gameplay that need balancing/reworking that the CSM show no interest in.
But nevermind the evidence eh. Its āworking as intendedā and āthe logs show nothingāā¦
āNothing works better than democracy.ā - Gee Bobg, geebobg.com
This statement is probably not true, haha! If we did not have any government at all, if we really had nothing, we would all probably be a lot worse off. I believe that the current CSM system is better than nothing!
Winston Churchill said:
āNo one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise.ā
And perhaps this is true; what do you think?
āDemocracy is the form of government that is the least evil.ā
Steve Ronuken got the most votes. Whoever agrees with Steve won. Besides, Steve is a super dedicated Eve pilot and a fuzzwork actual CEO in real life and I believe that these accomplishments must be respected. I voted for fuzzwork in the last election and I am not at all sorry that I did so.
Well before I joined Karmafleet and mostly operated in Hi Sec, Iād been voting for Steve. I got the impression (from NPC Corp chat) that those in Hi Sec who did bother with voting, many voted for Steve.
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Those of us in High Sec had few choices to influence the election. We could vote for who we thought were the best candidates to represent us and, with the very poor HS turnout,waste our votes as we would be trumped by the NS lemming votes. Instead, we voted for those candidates who either a) had some activity in HS, b) understanding of the importance of areas outside of NS in EVEās total health, or c) made any effort to engage those outside the NS community in discussions to at least appear to understand our concerns. Not an ideal situation or final solution, but the best we could do with the way CCP currently has the CSM election set up. In the end, it probably doesnāt matter, as the Devs and NS have a completely skewed opinion on what needs to be done to improve EVEās player population and gameplay. For the most part, engaging in any discussion with a NS player/CSM or Dev results in them dismissing your opinions and concerns almost immediately and their echochamber environment that they foster just reinforces their refusal to consider outside opinions. So, we get what we now haveā¦and with the results we have been seeing for several years.
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Perhaps heās part of the 20% that doesnt just represent 0.0 interests on the CSM, maybeā¦ I tend to not trust whats right in front of me though.
If that is really the case did he speak out against proposed changes that benefit null blob members to keep their crabbing op safe? If not why not?
If that is really the case did he speak out against proposed changes that break 2 gameplay options completely (ECM and hole rolling) despite the rest of the CSM wanting to āfixā them? If not why not?
I value evidence not rhetoric, words are cheap, actions are what count.
Today in ādemocracy suxā, we here again the idea that if an inconsequential video game advisory panel doesnāt look they way you want it to, someone should do something.
Itās not the CSMs fault, itās not CCPs fault, itās no oneās fault but your own that you and people like you refuse to vote and cannot organize your way out of a brown paper bag. CCp has change the voting system what, 3 times now?
And it STILL results in the same thing, because you simply canāt account for the people who refuse to spend 2 minutes clicking a button once every 6 months.
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Why do i even bother, dude, why do you make all those assumptions? And totally miss the point. Get a dictionary and look up the word āevidenceā if you need to. The proof is evident in the makeup and behaviour of the CSM. As i have said and you refuse to address.
My dislike doesnt mean āI hate,ā I dont hate the CSM. My criticisms of the CSM are not āattacksā theyre criticisms. And youāre actually stating that criticism shouldnt be taken seriously because someone criticizes somethingā¦ what??? Anyone that disagrees with you shouldnt be taken seriously because they dont see things are you doā¦ rightā¦ Thanks to D Trump for making that normal i guess.
I disagree with your ideological view of the CSM. I dont need you to explain to me why people are responding to me in a āhostileā way. I donāt think they are hostile at all, you are the one talking about āhateā and āattacksā not me.
You still refuse to address any of the evidence I have mentioned. Means its you that dont get taken seriously, just like the CSM isnt taken seriously by many. Its the evidence not the ideology that matter, the proof is that its not working, not even close and the sooner CCP wakes up to the fact that their wee experiment in democracy has just become a special interest lobby group and pulls the plug on it the better.
The time it took you to type out these excuses you could have been meeting with other players like yourself and planning for the next csm election.
Just sayin.
Have you ever tried to wrangle one action out of 1000s of people on the internet?
In a virual environment?
Hidden behind avatars?
Without repercussions for inaction?
With 100s of different languages?
Spread across vast geography?
With a huge range of different priorities? Play styles?
Come on the āother players should just be more organisedā argument is just daft. Will never work. And thats why the CSM doesnt represent them.
The reason the power blocks work is they have that structure in place, that coupled with the threat of getting kicked if they get caught stepping out of line means it works.
More excuse making. Null sec has been historically 11% of EVE characters. Seeing as how there is/was something like only 1.5 accounts per real person according to CCP Quant (my his avatar rest in peace lol), AT BEST ānull secā could depend on votes from <17% of players.
1 out of 3 or 4 high sec players voting together would crush that and thats not counting womrholers and low sec players.
You and people like you have enough time to play victim, enough time to write books on the forum about being a victim, enough time to NOT organize, but not enough to do the one thing that would end your need to complain?
Thatās pitiful. Funny thing is I know people like that (like one of my best friends) IRL who complain about politicans but canāt be bothered to vote. If I had to guess Iād say there is some comfort in believing that you are powerless, you canāt suffer the pain of a loss if you never play in the 1st place.
Edit, oh and that last bit about getting thrown out if you donāt vote is hilarious, I voted for 1 guy on one account this time and didnāt vote at all with my other 3 accounts and the guy I voted for wasnāt on any list I was supposed to vote for. Somehow Im still in my coalition. I better watch out for those black helicopters any day now!!!.
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You didnt address much of anything with what you said there.
Try againā¦
Have you ever tried to wrangle one action out of 1000s of people on the internet? etc