CSM Member Distribution

Its a restriction, not a quota.
Two different terms.
It restricts the amount of CSM seats a Corp/Alliance can have to one.
It adds no quota to the CSM panel itself, which is still made up of 10 members, whom are elected by majority.

1 seated CSM member per Corp/Alliance is fair, as it is applied to all Corps/Alliances in EVE.

Quota can be a maximum (a restriction or limit) as much as it can a minimum.

Blind ignorance doesn’t change that.

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Its a restriction placed on Corps/Alliances, and membership in them of more than 1 CSM.

Its not a quota, in any shape or form, in regards to the CSM panel itself.


CSM is not intended as a political meta battleground.

Its intended as a representational group of elected players whom are intermediaries/advisors between CCP and the wider playerbase.

CSM are also contractually held to a higher standard than other players.

Corp/Alliance action to try to dominate the CSM is counter-productive.


With a max 1 CSM per Corp/Alliance flag restriction, CSM representation can diversify without political complications.

If 2 candidates want to run under the same flag, only the one with most votes gains a seat on CSM, if they have enough vs all other candidates in EVE to get a CSM seat.

Aside from that, they are free to run on any toon they want, in any Corp/Alliance they want, and that character will become the official CSM rep, with which all CSM business is to be conducted.

Tbf that’s probably time zones

Yes, a timezone rotation of discussion saboteurs/shills.

No, Null leaders just say “vote for this list of our friends and corp/alliance members”, and their members do it.

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So exactly what he just said?

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“Hey guys, vote for this list”
“Ok, boss”

Hardly constitutes wrangling.

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Wrangling sounds like applying force to compel another, if it means what I think it means.

As in cow wrangling from the dingdang wildwest yall

Comments like this leave me wandering if your conversational English is as good as you think it is

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Some people, unlike you, actually use words per their definition, not based on what they “feel” they mean.

Lets say next year there are 6/10 CSM with GoonWaffe/GSF tag.

Do you see any issue with that?

Your really are devoted to the art of BS arent you Lucas? And you STILL haven’t addressed the evidence.

‘Its not that way’ … actually evidence.

‘He’s not just representing 0.0’ … actually evidence.
He said it in this very thread. And the ‘Balance pass’ lol or have you not actually read it? Also you said ‘You’re right, the null agenda is pushed’… So yes, evidence. (You also said ‘The makeup of the CSM doesn’t mean it’s inherently weighted to null’ so which is it?)

‘I dont have masters’ … evidence, you’re sure acting like u do.

‘Its working fine’ … evidence, thousands of disenfranchised voters who’s votes arent worth shite.

‘Thats an attack…’ … evidence, ‘attack’ is your word not mine. Also ‘hate’ was mentioned…??? Or did u forget that you accused me of that?

‘Thats not what i said at all…’ … evidence, thats EXACTLY what you said… quote ‘so we can pretty much go ahead and ignore any other opinion you have on the matter’ end quote.

‘You’re angry…’ no i think you’re funny and deluded. :slight_smile:

You just dont get it. Screw those blinkers on tighter man!! Tighter!!! The truth might actually get in…

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Leaks happen all the time.
Often inadvertently.
Some people unwittingly give away information by omission or smart cross-questioning. They wont even know it happened.

Wow we agree on something.

Democracy needs more than ‘ticking a box’

It also needs more than ‘Guys all of you vote for this guy’ and ‘You guys in there vote for that guy.’ ‘The rest of you vote for me’
Tadaaaaa CSM 13!!!

You really dont think thats messed up? That thats not every bit as sad as people like me who are so disillusioned with the system that they now opt out?

CSM is supposed to be representative of the EVE playerbase.

Not of specific Corps/Alliances.

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@everyone with the exception of #### i want to see every single corp mate inside fleet right NOW @#### @#### if you aren’t in a fax under seb you put yourself in Muninns. Every alt, doesn’t matter if its a sceptor

On a scale of 1 to wrangling rate this ns ping plz

If players are punished for not participating, its an ultimatum.

Quoting for future use. Also thanks for arguing against the ‘fix’ you have been suggesting

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Fair. It does kinda feel unfair at this point

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