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lol even torturing you under the bright lights of the truth is boring.

You refuse to engage with the evidence, your credibility is shot. You haven’t addressed shite. Your devotion to your BS idealism that the CSM is working shows just how tight those blinkers are on. Do they hurt? They really must to ignore all that stands before you.

Ignore what i say, its fine, its all just ‘attacks’ and ‘hate’ anyway apparently and just you know maybe read the balance pass notes and ask yourself the question ‘who benefits?’ If you’re answer is anything other than 0.0 shills you’re lying to yourself.

Done with your rubbish man. Have a nice day cupcake.

Hi I’m about as dedicated and well known highsec player as you will ever find outside code or a merc crew. Steve is my #1 pick this year and has been a top 3 every year. He has represented exactly how he has claimed he would. Hell go read the csm minutes from the last 5 years. Have a wonderful day

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Glad thats worked out well for you. Perhaps I was wrong about him (though the CSM advice to CCP re the current ‘balance pass’ makes me v suspicious) and he’s part of the 20% of the CSM not under the thumb of the 0.0 powerhouses.

Still not good enough in my book. But vote for him again if he’s doing it for you. I wont vote again until the system is changed or better I wont have the option because the CSM is taken off life support. o7

Thats fine.
Hes independent, and though I have concerns on him earning money in association with EVE, its not disqualifying atm.

The problem is the 3/10 GoonWaffe/GSF block on the CSM panel.

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I think he is too much of a CCP fanboi and for that reason I think he will swallow everything CCP comes up with. I like those whos attitude is more neutral or sceptical.

And I have major differences of opinion with him on several issues. One of the biggest is wardecs. But at the end of the day he lists his stances on his thread and the minutes reflect he speaks up on them. I can’t ask more than that

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Which is why CSM has no power. And why CCP uses CSM.

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3/10 CSMs being from the same Corp/Alliance (GoonWaffe/GSF) raises serious concerns about the political neutrality of CSM, and their capacity to drown out dissenting voices on the CSM panel with their combined voice in both volume and frequency.

GoonWaffe/GSF are a real, powerful, numerous, influential, existing, politically active entity in the game, with their own agenda and interests. (Furthermore, one infamous for subversion). It is exceedingly naive to not see the risk, and plausibility, of that inevitably leaking into CSM deliberations, intentionally or not.

That risk exists with just 1 CSM, and is even more likely/dangerous with 3 CSM, especially if they collaborate.

A few points here.

  1. If you believe someone is profiting from the EVE Online IP in violation of copyright law or in breach of our policies, please file a support ticket.

  2. The CSM is democratically elected. For those who don’t know what this means, the people who get the most votes are elected. Shock horror.

  3. Artificially limiting the number of people that can be on the CSM from a given alliance, coalition or organization would be both undemocratic, and against the spirit of allowing the community to select their own delegates.

  4. If you want to change the institution, or if you want to see a more divrse council, start whipping votes. Whinging on the forums about it not being fair isn’t going to change anything. Get out there, campaign, and vote. That’s what democracy is about.

With these four points in mind, this thread is now being closed.

It’s served its purpose and has devolved into trolling, whining and toxicity.

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