Cyno Alt CCP racket an extortion game

To be honest some of my best memories in this game were the all-nighter convoys 30+ null jumps to Fey guarding a dozen freighters with all our gear.

Being forced to log half way there even made it more interesting. That is, logging after 20+ SS warps to lose aggression on the freighters so they could safe-log.

Making the game easier actually has made if less fun in many ways.

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Thank you for the knowledge and information I never realized cyno was not always a thing they’ve been a thing since I started in 2016 and I left the game for a year and came back on my main I’m still considering adding two more accounts for my barges

PS I am dyslexic and I do struggle with where to put the periods exclamation points that type of thing

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BITE YOUR TONGUE YOU PUBBIE THINK OF THE NULLBEARS!

I live on the principle of Live and Let Live don’t come knocking on my door looking for a fight I won’t have to kick your ass and I can enjoy my day but come looking for a fight I might die and be sent back to Medical Clinic facility but I just learned from that experience and loss keep moving it’s a Dorito I dropped on the floor we move on

ps So I don’t know if you would call me a Care Bear with teeth I caught myself a Care Bear with a set of teeth because I really don’t enjoy it PVP but I also don’t let myself Loose ships if I can help it

That is how most of the players I’ve known liked playing this game.

But it isn’t popular with the KB stat chasers who treat the game more like a FPS game.
They like to whine about the “risk-adverse” who don’t line up for their clone activation services.

I was once part of that whining crowd but then I realized if I was going to play this game you have to grow a pair and you have to learn to take your losses like a potato chip and move on

Hey, I wasn’t being serious. I’ve had talks with Jennifer in the past. She’s a dislexic. Sure, that excuse is thrown around a lot, but she seems pretty legit. I think I throw something at her every time I see her post, because it’s just so ■■■■■■■ annoying. :slight_smile:

HEY, UNFAIR, this was the closest I could get to my old name! :stuck_out_tongue:
It’s the german word for Project. :stuck_out_tongue:

Well … I don’t know! In a sense it is, because one does not require alts at all. It could just be actual friends. When your target audience is isolationist farmers though, then there’s a problem.

I think it’s a bad example to use supers. Supers aren’t even meant for soloplay. Any outsider hearing that he needs an alt to fly a super isn’t going to last anyway, because he’d be using it solo … and losing it. Unless he joins an alliance, where he gets to afford an alt easily anyway.

I think the real question is: Does it hurt the game that there still exist barriers keeping out certain types of people? No, I don’t think so. Does it hurt the game that people believe one requires an alt? Yeah. Is it the actual truth though? No.

So, do we actually want people, who believe something wrong, in the game? The forums showed us that those who complain about it usually can’t be educated, thus showing that it’s not actually a loss when they don’t play.

Just like all those casuals who claim they need special protection because they can’t invest the time. Then some asshole claims that we need more players, where I throw in that quality matters more than quantity, after which he exposes that he’s too ■■■■■■■ dumb to understand what that even means.

Hell … I don’t know. It’s too complex for me to analyse and I’m just drinking tea.

No coffee yet. :frowning:

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Indeed. And CCP has been doing this for a long time. :cry:

Does this mean “making the game easier by introducing cynos”? That’s clearly something intended to help well-established players.

Which would raise an interesting question: of all the changes that have made the game simpler, how many have actually helped new/Isk-poor/solo players vs how many have helped nullbears & gankers?

I’ve played EVE intermittently for a little over ten years, but never got beyond 6 weeks of continual play. The only changes I can think of that would (slightly) affect me in all that time have been:

  • Removing the idiotic skills that made learning other skills faster
  • Some QoL changes to skill queues
  • MDs and MTUs
  • The latest Wardec change (perhaps not effective, but at least CCP made an attempt).
  • Skill Injectors (useless to me, but I could use them if I wanted to)
  • NB: Some of the new activities and kinds of space (Exploration, the hacking mini-game, probes, WH space) have potential, but they’ve never actually been useful to me

There might be a few more, but not many.

But I’ve seen a lot of changes that were clearly intended for experienced / ISK-risk players.

So whose “fault” is it that the game has changed for the worse? It doesn’t seem reasonable to even consider new players or PvE specialists when trying to answer that question.

My understanding of the cyno mechanics is that no real player would really want to be involved in lighting cynos. Once the module is activated, the cyno ship just sits there defenceless for 10 minutes and the player can’t do anything during that time. It doesn’t really seem like gameplay anyone would want to do, which is why it seems like everyone has a “cyno alt”.

Why ?

Why ?

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I’m not sure if I can answer this question. When I am thinking in my own mind, it is very abstract and there are no words assigned to the concepts floating around inside my head, and I don’t think there is just one answer, but many answers with various degrees of importance.

The most succinct I think I can manage is that people find meaning and happiness in how they interact with the other people in the world around them while at the same time going to great length, more than I think is reasonable, to minimize it.

When I look the world over for people who are happy on the inside instead of presenting a superficial facade of ease that resembles it, people with less who depend on each other more seem happier than people with more who depend on each other less.

Not a scientific, nor a complete answer, and I’m sure there’s philosophical room to disagree or argue against it if people are so inclined, but there you go.

Stop being poor and subscribe an alt or ask a friend to do it. If you can afford to jump a nice capital ship across the universe, having an alt should be manageable.

What many corporations do is to have alt-characters from comp/alliance position along the planned jump route to successively provide the Cynos for such travel.

This is not a solo game (though much activity can be)

Nonsense. You can always have a friend scout for you, or light a cyno for you.

Eve has always been like this. Its safer in numbers, safer with friends.

So that content which one could presume would be friends has become alts. Is that the take? Then perhaps the vision is outdated? Maybe the game managers are still stuck on the multiplayer aspect but have failed to realize that people can’t stand each other any more mainly because… well I can speak for the USA only so far that in-patient psychiatric care has completely collapsed and “every other person” it seems is batshit crazy to some extent.

So alts become “required” not because of scam, but because people suck.

Next time I log in, I’m going to send you a hundred ISK for that exquisite word salad. No grammar. No syntax. Little capitalization and punctuation. I even read it out loud just to savor the sheer lack of cadence and flow.

Seriously. It’s a thing of beauty.

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Yes, the game managers are stuck on the multiplayer aspect of a massive multiplayer online game.

So you have no friends in real life? You are completely alone?

Because, most people can stand a lot of people and thats how we make friends. I have friends.

I will not disagree with you that some people suck at making friends. And yes, if you suck at making friends, then you will need alts, because no one would want to play with you.

The rest of us, are not so bad at making friends. We can meet atleast one other person that we can stand being around. And they are our cynos.

Id like a hundred isk too. My face is a thing of beauty.