Increase the economic friction associated with capital ship deployments and jump freighter hauling
How? You’ve ripped the arse out of capital ship deployment by introducing jump fatigue followed the recent cap changes.
Stimulate the ice product markets which would otherwise suffer from lower starbase usage
Fozzie, you could earn yourself a few points here and stimulate the ice product market by consuming ice to reduce jump fatigued.
Improve the balance of ice product consumption (increased isotope and liquid ozone consumption relative to heavy water consumption)
Look to the point above.
Easier trade of high value reacted intermediate materials for T2 production (with the goal of nullsec regions being largely self-sufficient by volume but encouraging trade of lower-volume goods)
Wake the F-up, everything gets transported to JITA.
Somewhat reducing the pain that can be caused by heavy jump drive usage and high stacked jump fatigue values
Read point above about consuming ice products to reduce jump fatigue.
Seriously how are you still a designer at CCP, all you’ve done is piss off large amounts of people and this is another one, half-arsed change because of changes to moon goo that a large portion of gamers didn’t want but you still thrust it upon us.
To be fair, the statements ‘we suck at this’ and ‘Goons [. . .] have the best industrial system of that size in the game’ aren’t actually mutually exclusive. It just indicates that even if we’re the best in the game at this, we still feel like we suck and could be doing it much, much better.
It also says something about what we think of everyone else’s industrial operations…
What am I being accused of backing up here? Don’t drag me into ‘who mentioned/referred to/hinted at PL’ first, the answer’s pretty obviously you by mentioning you’re in Horde. I mean, that’s just a no-brainer. Which is a good way of describing the two of you arguing over who brought PL into this, too.
'cause your leadership actually tried to out bore the MBC and found it didn’t work that time.
Well I was in every Hakonen fight except one and the sheer weight of goons meant things could have gone very wrong very quickly. And that was with the entire North united to fight you. And you with no supercap fleet.
Goons size and organisation with a PL tier FC team is pure nightmare fuel.
Dude, you just said earlier how you have been playing for less than 5 years. Querns comment is about them being treated like crap for over 10 years. So if you can’t comment about one thing from more than 5 years ago, how are you knowledgeable on this?
… absolutely everyone would do it even more than we already are, which would cause massive devaluations of basically everything except ice products, and even more complaints from everyone about how much money we’re making.
Fuel bay size does nothing to demand. It only affects how often you have to refuel. So no, reducing fuel bays would not have solved the need to prop up ice mining.
It would have solved the halving of the size of isotopes. And I don’t feel, as well as obviously many others here in this very thread, that throwing the need for increased usage onto cap pilots was the correct choice. They should have, and still should, tie that entirely to citadels and reactions - the original large consumers of what is now produced in excess.
How can you say everything gets transported to Jita when we’re, on the net level, forcefully doing the opposite? When you say “every,” you have to include people who you think are subhuman (like Goons.)
Due to bad doctrine choices and some poor FCing. Those phoons were much more effective in Hakonen 2 then Hakonen 1 for example as your FCs remembered what a “firewall” was.
I also fought in the Perimeter battle for our trade Fortizar where we literally couldn’t kill goons faster then you could reship.