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Fully agree. I generally use Discord as little as possible. If they start to require ID, i’ll just delete that crap and bath in FOMO sweat. Great were the times where folks just set up a Teamspeak server and been shitposting on their self hosted forums (GDPR killed the latter).
I don’t see these times come back though. Vast majority of people is 10/10 llazy and does not care about privacy or anything if the thing they use is more convenient. And if there is something more secure, they don’t because all their friends don’t. Herd think. They happily slide down the slippery slope into the boiling pot 
(AI bot slop answer post in 3…2…1…)
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I just use my sister’s ID.
Nothing too fancy? 
You do know these things:
- We had voice chat previously. It was horrible.
- Even text chat has not been stable for years.
- Supporting 2.000 or 4.000 people in a fleet fight requires advanced tech wizardry AND TiDi. Add voice on top of that.
- In-game voice chat is completely useless when the game client crashes.
Look… Discord is not the only application of that type. Just find an alternative suitable for you and that’s it.
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I agree with their reasons for requiring ID, Discord has a huge problem with child grooming, but I’m not going to trust them with photos of my ID after all the leaks they’ve had.
In general I also just despise Discord, it’s killed so many communities over the years, and hidden away valuable public information behind chatrooms only viewable by logging in, and which are completely opaque to indexers and search engines. When I see a cool project with just a link “join us on our discord”, I quietly seethe.
So consider me all-for CCP making their own alternative. There’s a lot of potential for an “EVE Offline” web app (could also be an iOS app) with features like corp management, event scheduling, fitting simulator, skill training management, etc. A pyfa counterpart that lets me save fits directly into my corp? Yes please.
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I agree with the overall sentiment. As someone who hasn’t used discord in almost six years, good riddance.
However, let’s be candid about the state of the game, the dev team, and the publisher. Business interest is to squeeze as many pennies out of the whales as possible, and they direct the dev team to achieve that goal. Expansion, bugfixes, QoL aren’t even in the back seat to monetizing the hell out of this game: they’re in the boot. So we should dispense with the idea that CCP should reinvent VC in the client. There’s no one left in QA which means changing the UI colors without breaking the game is a tall order.
Mumble and its cohort are sufficient if you need to talk/listen. There is a great deal of nostalgia brewing for wikis/forums thanks to these thinly veiled surveillance laws, and that’s something I’d enjoy more of as well.
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Source?
Technically, they will only require it for people who appear to be underage.
It’s been all over the news if you’ve followed that the last week.
Here’s a link:
If this means fewer game companies hide their communication in closed rooms cut off from the internet and go back to forums that are searchable, great!
I never liked the move away from forums towards discord and lost communication in all games that did that.
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Discord sells data to AI companies so all you have to do is ask ChatGPT.
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I don’t follow such news (I’m not a gamer), thus this is the first time I hear of it. Thanks for the link.
Not sure how much my Discord will be affected, but I will 100% not give them a picture of my ID. I don’t need Discord that much.
Just you wait till: They could not buy or sell (or access) anything unless they had the mark. 
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Pretty much accurate. All I need in life is my guy. I’m pretty simple like that.
This change the way its written in the statment wont have any effect on any eve related content. Worst case if you have a corp / alliance DC server, 18+ channels will not be accessible without ID verification. Which is a good thing. I certainly wont miss weired posts of ppl who make pictures of their characters with nude mods from whatever game they are playing.
And if it helps to significantly reduce the amount of CP being distributed through discord it´s even better.
Well I’m all for protecting kids too, but we may be going about it all wrong I’m afraid. It wasn’t that long ago that the best way to protect yourself from any sort of online harm was to share as little personal info as possible. Now we’re stuck handing over the kind of stuff scammers and creepers just love to get ahold of.
And lets be honest, they could do something about CP on discord if they wanted to, they could use all their fancy ad delivering algorithms and AI wizardry to catch those scum.
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It’s an obvious security risk.
Zuckerberg and Musk demonstrate you can’t trust social media.
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Even without the scam angle it’s outright insane, in my opinion, to hand over personal details of myself to an entity I don’t know, have no way of contacting (most social media platforms are either impossible or extremely difficult to get in touch with if you have some sort of a problem), who is vulnerable to outside attacks, who has been breached, who stores info about me I don’t know where with I don’t know what kind of protections, and – who doesn’t need this information. Need I go on?
I guess I’ll be automatically thrown out of the couple NSFW gay channels I’ve joined on Discord as a result of this. But I can live with that.
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Second Life has coped with its own in-game voice chat for 30,000 active users…both personal and group chat…for 18 years and EVE can’t cope ?
I was using Roger Wilco ( third party voice app ) for Team Fortress as far back as 28 years ago….on servers that were running on 56k modems. Telling me that EVE can’t cope is like saying someone needs to walk in front of my car waving a flag in case it disintegrates at 4mph.
While I agree that they should do more to catch ppl spreading that kind of stuff I disagree with your general sentiment.
Focussing on punishment rather than on prevention, does nothing to help the victims of that kind of stuff. They don´t really benefit from ppl being caught or punished, but they do benefit from their pictures (if they were unlucky to be manipulated to give them out willingly) or AI generated CP pictures of them not being spread so easily in the first place.
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The issue you aren’t understanding is that by enabling ingame voice chat CCP becomes liable for moderating that content. They obviously struggle to moderate text chat, and can’t even keep virulent racism out of character and corporation names. It is unrealistic to expect them to also police voice chat. You refer to Second Life, but if you actually log into SL then you are aware of what kind of content is the norm. CCP certainly wants nothing to do with that.
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