Been aroun the world, and main meta everywhere is:
No money, no fun …
or
in Liza Minnelli interpretation:
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Small conflicts are determined by in game mechanic and ISK, it’s right, while the huge conflicts of Alliances or other big groups of players over long period of time are determined by player’s IRL of those groups. It determines for how long different players will be kept involved into, how much money they can invest to replace the loses, how much free time they have to grind to replace loses (when somebody is placed on zKillborad, it also means that dude just gone rating into belts), how much time will be used into Region camping, for how much some of them will tend to use bots to do it for them, how much they’ll invest in third party tools like blogs, propaganda, sites, applications everything.
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Goons are funded by SomethingAwful subs.
And you cant join Goons without a SA sub.
So Goons pay two subs.
One to CCP, the other to SA (Goons), plus Goons sucking isk tax and requiring members to comply.
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Tell me you’re not really this naive, please?
Yup, you can bet your life on it, Hilmar and a chunk of other CCPers will wash their hands of the whole thing within 18 months
Judging from CCP’s ‘’‘’‘expansions’‘’’ the last 2 years that would be a bad thing, they do nothing except +5 pg here and +1 low -1 high there. CCP have not balanced the game properly since the cruiser tiercide about 3 or 4 years ago
It’s been like that for about 3 years
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Yeah sure…
So you didn’t mean you rather have bots around than higher module prices when you said:
And btw, you don’t do any PvP and only run PvE so why the hell are you crying about module prices? How bad do you have to be to run missions for a decade or whatever and still cry about module prices?
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Many DED module prices on market are down by 1/3 to 1/2 since 5yrs ago.
You may not be aware of this, but some players run DEDs to raise isk off drop sales, not cos they want the modules for their own use.
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Read again what I was talking about. He is crying because the modules are too expensive not too cheap.
Wow, still trolling for a forum flame war in an attempt to derail this thread.
Obviously you fail at Reading Comprehension. You must be so scared that your botting accounts will be discovered that you’re now trying to deflect attention onto others with false accusations.
By the way, this game is PvP and even if I don’t log in I’m still doing PvP.
Wow, just WOW! Do you actually think someone is buying this cheap accusation to deflect from the OBVIOUS fact that you are fine with bots because of some short sighted personal gain? This is a new level of pathetic really.
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What’s pathetic is you constantly starting forum flame wars by posting lies and false accusations.
You should really stop posting. Even I blind can see who is lying here. JUST WOW! 
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Ima, do you bot?
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Take your own advice and stop posting your lies and false accusations. Your constant attempts to cast suspicion of botting onto me makes you look very guilty.
Seriously, your insistence to continue a forum flame war and derail this thread will be flagged.
Are you serious? I ■■■■■■■ hate bots. They destroy the game. I would never ever use a bot.
I’m pretty sure people whitout a personal grudge and the ability to read can see preatty clearly who is in favour of bots here.
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I never said you are botting, I said you are in favour of bots which you clearly are
Nice cover story.
Clearly you are reading a lot more into what people write then what’s actually written.
Back on topic, a lot of people have written that Pearl Abyss has games with lot’s of bots so if anyone favors bots then it’s Pearl Abyss.
General Catalyst and NEA are cashing out their shares…those shares will go to Pearl Abyss, presumably. So that money, at least the bulk of it will go to the venture capital firms.
Okay…
First off, yes some of those logins were likely bots, just as with today. Could there have been more? Sure if x% are bots, then with say 45,000 log ins we’d have x%*45,000 vs say x%*30,000. But do we really want to argue that having bot logins is a good thing?
Second do not forget that there was a policy change in regards to ISBoxer how many logins were lost because of that? I don’t know, you don’t know and CCP may not even know. Also changes to skill training might have had an impact too. How much of those logins were simple skill changes/updates? Now I could set months worth of skill training and thus not log in every day–i.e. login for fleets and other fun things.
So yes, the drop in logins is worrying. But given these kinds of policy type changes to the game you have what could be considered a “regime change” in the words of James Hamilton.
First off, microtransactions are not such a clear sign of less profitability. It could signal that, but then again even if profits had not declined if introducing such microtransactions boosts profits even higher only a fool would not introduce them. And Alpha clones are probably slightly more indicative of a decline in profitability, but again if it means more profits via microtransactions and it is not necessarily implying a loss anywhere else why not do it even if profits have not declined? And investors sell their shares, investments all the time for a number of reasons. Yes, one is decline in profitability, but the other is opportunity cost. That last one often confuses people so let me explain by way of example.
DMC Inc. holds 51% equity in a firm. That equity is worth $100 (the numbers are illustrative, make it $100 million if it makes you feel better). You expect to earn say 10%. So next year you’ll have $110. But you see another investment that you expect to earn a return of 15%. Now, if you stick with your initial investment what is the expected net opportunity cost? $5. That is if you sole your current investment and invest in this new opportunity next year you’d have $115. So $115 - $110 = $5 which is your forgone benefit of keeping your current investment.
Since neither you nor I are privy to the inner workings of NEA or General Catalyst we don’t know why they are selling. Could be they see CCP’s future as less favorable, that they see something better, both or something else entirely.
As for not being profitable…so you are saying that Pearl Abyss executives are all stupid?
You don’t think a buyer wouldn’t notice this? That you are smarter than everyone that was involved with this decision at Pearl Abyss?
Oh God…not this again…somebody is paying. You really don’t grasp the concept of opportunity cost.
Oh…so they do pay…they pay via PLEX–i.e. somebody else paid the cash and the botter gave that person ISK.
The in game CPI is below 100 and has been for a long time. Overall things are cheaper.
This…the MERs are out there go read them. If you don’t know about price indices you can google them or read about them or you can start a thread here on the forums to discuss them.
And this is a fine display of economic ignorance.
Human capital is hard to acquire without spending money.
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It’s pretty backwards anyway to even suggest that microtransactions where introduced because of dwindling subscription numbers. They where introduced when the subscription where at their peek, we all can remember it, what followed was the summer of rage. It was when CCP instead of fixing the game decided to further monetize it and they lost a lot of trust and subscribers then.
Funny how DMC now tries to reinvent history and imply it was the complete opposite. I bet he was even around back then…
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