Damn… this is terrible news… blackdesert is a pay 2 win game… so i guess they will turn eve a p2w game also? i guess it will the end of eve from my part after 11 years…
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Imagine having $425m and you spend it on a space sim… oh how the other half live
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Just checked BDO steam page. Those dudes want money, lootboxes are hellokitty in comparison. I’m sad right now. It was best game I ever played, with most beloved theme and type of gameplay. It was fun ride. Time to look for something different, anybody knows fun space theme game?
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Eve is already p2w
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PA is paying 425mil.
Some of that, is a bonus if CCP generates y revenue over x duration.
But, this sale valuation, puts CCP value at 425mil, including that.
If CCP was required to produce 200mill revenue, over say 6-24months, that wojld be equal to DOUBLING its otherwise valuation, in revenue, over 6-24 months.
It cant be done.
25 mil can reasonably be done.
Id say with 90% deductive certainty, that the 25mil ontop of the 400 mil is the bonus treat.
amazing how this generates like almost 1000 comments in under 4 hours
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Actually, we do. I’m not sure however whether that’s allowed to discuss here. At this point it is probably not smart to link documents.
Still, you can figure out much by reading between the lines of marketing.
First, we plan to support the long-running success of Eve Online and maintain its position as one of the leading sci-fi IPs in the world. We also hope to further our market growth with Eve Online, plans for which we’re not yet ready to announce. Down the line, we are looking to integrate CCP’s extensive development and publishing know-how into the creation of our pipeline of original IP.
That already says quite a bit. Product viability, financial targets, comparison to CCP’s available revenues & fiscal statements in relation to cost of acquisition. Revenue flow from EVE to PA, secondary targets, combining of assets and means. After that the down the line.
A big part of managing reception and messaging is to be the improvement of company → customer publication and communication. So the cumulative gap of things the past year will be followed by an approach which is basically just empty marketing, but which will feel more fresh, more responsive, more detailed. Even though it is none of this.
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Do you know bdo? if u know it u would understand what i’m saying…
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It is the end of an era.
We definitely don’t know the shape of things to come, we can only hope for the best but my mind is screaming “no way”. However there is no chance of the playerbase influencing business decisions, so ,not much to do anyway.
It has been a few enjoyable years but one thing is true: "the game formerly known as EvE online unfortunately it does not exist anymore at least nowhere near what we used to understand as EvE.
Regardless of what the changes will be it will NOT be EvE.
P.S. Someone who has spent 455 mio USD will absolutely look for R.O.I. and fast.This alone allows no room for optimism, not in the real world.
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What are you talking about? PA own ccp 100% and WILL TAKE whatever it want, ccp can just ask “how high to jump master ?”
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why would they need to generate that much though
where are you getting this idea
Who care about your concern, are you PA share holder or fat whale, no ? Then GTFO!
you could probably give a rough figure it is only speculation after all
Eve could be a massive game with the right leadership.
The last 10 years has seen an huge decline in the paying playerbase.
Hopefully the new owners can turn that around.
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That’s are money are for!
Their plans are to earn more that 425 000 000 $, simple as that!
That much is obvious. How they intend to do this is a much bigger question.
Read and cry:
PA offers 425 for CCP.
Part of that is a bonus, if CCP delivers x revenue over y duration.
You stated that bonus is 200mill.
Typical in such transactions, is a 6-24month period, in which to fill that condition.
With that 200mill bonus, per you, deducted from the 425 million valuation/sale price, would result in CCP as it is being worth 225 million.
Thus to deliver on the rest, so as to fulfill the conditions of the bonus condition, CCP would have to generate that missing 200mill in 6-24 months, so as to recoup that to the buyer, and fulfill the bonus condition, which is paid back then, and only then, on delivery.
TLDR: CCP, if the bonus is 200mill, which is insane and certainly false, would have to double its valuation in 6-24 months.
25mil bonus makes sense considering CCPs revenue.
200mil bonus, makes no sense, and cannot be apportioned rationally to CCPs revenue, nor its valuement in sale, as then only at 225mil.
You are suggesting that CCP gets a 200mil “bonus” ontop of its actual valuement of 225mil, if it meets revenue requirements y for duration x.
For over 1 year, the main discussion on BDO forums looks like to the below post fragment, which projects the view of many players there:
Rather than ask what is the general gameplay of black desert online, because that is obvious and self-evident if you just play the god damn game, we should be asking why is the general gameplay of black desert online the way it is.
examples of “what” threads:
Black desert online is pay2win
Black desert online has bad pvp
Black desert online needs more costumes
I’ll stay calm and I’ll look what will happen further. You know, at Pearl Abyss aren’t working complete incompetent children. They understand the EVE concept and will not intervene into it with some traditional RPG mechanics, similarly to other MMORPGs. For now it’s obvious that EVE will be developed under CCP management, but I’m curious how things will happen in the future. How the new ideas will be applied?
The main question is:
Will Pearl Abyss invest into recoding EVE from scratch to replace the ‘legacy code’?