You are assuming these are high reward sites loke incursions. These do not sound like that at all. These sound like sites that EVE Uni will love as they could run basic courses on missioning and the UI while running these sites or where the old Angel Project would sit waiting go help newbs with ready fit ships to hand out. It is for helping people and improving tje new player experience, not an isk faucet to be milked on the most efficient way possible.
No, I’m assuming that the experienced EVE players who are eager to complain and looking for small things (OMG, you have to bring MINERS? to a MINING site?!?) to complain about… are going to complain. It’s what EVE players do best: they bitch and moan.
Can I bring my Marshal when it comes out?
Scenario 1: because NPC miners don’t take damage they will mine faster and objective will be completed
Scenario 2: more players miner means objective will be completed faster
Does that mean I will see you at Vegas?
Unfortunately no, got more to do since my Birthday is at 6 Oct and I am going to start studying too. Also no info was provided to me when I asked beforehand if I could get the ticket just for the sake of getting a Marshal (Yes I am that willing to throw my wallet at the screen for it), not to mention most of the info provided includes Both Fanfest and Vegas, and as we know Fanfest is long gone.
So my guess is I have to wait till someone puts it on sale on the market ;-; Or if Project Discovery gets some love >.>
Scenario 1 explicitly states the NPC miners can’t complete the objective on their own. What you’ve just said it ‘look, I know it’s impossible, but if we shoot the birds, Little Timmy can flap his arms and fly!’
If the NPCs aren’t enough to fill the haulers before the timer expires, it doesn’t matter if you keep them alive, they aren’t enough to fill the hauler before the timer expires. 1+1 won’t equal 12 no matter how long it takes you to add.
How much faster? Will it be fast enough to offset the max possible bounties from the rats? Because you know that’s what people will base their estimations on.
I wish I could hit the like button more than once on this!
I imagine we’ll be seeing dual purpose ships as in Battle Ventures and Warskiffs.
The kind of experienced player that helps newbies doesn’t care about isk/hr during the task.
From the outside it sounds like their main issue will be how experienced players can play supporting roles, without dominating proceedings. ie if i’m helping someone mine and fight off pve hostiles in a procurer, and they are in a venture, then I’ll just wind up basically doing the content for them.
I expect so as well. I know my own thoughts on these are ‘ok, so Venture + Warriors, and then Skiffs in the bigger sites’
I don’t think these will be high pay. Otherwise you will get players shoving as many alts as they can into them/blocking other players. As mentioned they are likely meant to be meet-and-greets. They probably don’t even get bounties, just payouts at the end for everyone there (so fill those haulers asap!)
One question though, if i can use creative ways to invade a site, can i use the same method to stuff a site full of players so they get more pay-out?
… also isn’t the only kind of experienced player that gets into these sites. You don’t design mechanics for the best-case scenario, you design it for the worst-case. “Hope for the best, plan for the worst”.
Now there’s an interesting question, isn’t it?
Best of luck on this CCP, but it’s not going to work out the way it’s intended and it’s going to somehow be gamed to death (like any system), timers or no.
Well, going on past events, any flaw will be exploited by the community in under 24 hours.
Welcome to a fundamental truth of humanity, my friend. There’s more user-brains beating on a thing than designer-brains, and the user-brains will always find things the designer-brains didn’t.
Didn’t see if this was asked yet, but will there be ship limits on both ends?
For example Tier 1 is corvette and Frigs only… and Tier 5 allows Battleships, but can you take a corvette into a T5, or will it be limited to say at least Cruisers?
In my opinion the career agents are fine, but the NPE just stops there. No additional suggestions what to do after them, and the epic arcs and cosmos missions aren’t even mentioned. That’s the bigger problem.